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If we had the sketch to how toilet paper was first developed would we hold it this level of reverence? What is the fascination with such trivial technologies grabbing a mindshare?

Because it’s inspiring. A lot of our ideas look as simple as that, and it’s good from time to time to remember that it can be done.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#32

If we had the sketch to how toilet paper was first developed would we hold it this level of reverence? What is the fascination with such trivial technologies grabbing a mindshare?

I wouldn't call twitter nor toilet paper trivial. Speaking of toilet paper: https://www.etsy.com/no-en/listing/267715178/toilet-paper-pa...

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#33

If we had the sketch to how toilet paper was first developed would we hold it this level of reverence? What is the fascination with such trivial technologies grabbing a mindshare?

Because it’s inspiring. A lot of our ideas look as simple as that, and it’s good from time to time to remember that it can be done.

I find it infuriating. It drives home how insurmountable someone else’s first mover advantage and subsequent network effects can be. I say this as someone who had great success in my niche, I’m often angry about my own success and sympathize with my competitors who failed to catch up for no reason other than that they weren’t the first to do what I did.

Today no one can turn their own micropublishing idea into a Twitter competitor, because by the time it achieves even 0.1% of Twitter’s success, Twitter will just clone its features to kill its momentum.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it’s inspiring. A lot of our ideas look as simple as that, and it’s good from time to time to remember that it can be done.

I find it infuriating. It drives home how insurmountable someone else’s first mover advantage and subsequent network effects can be. I say this as someone who had great success in my niche, I’m often angry about my own success and sympathize with my competitors who failed to catch up for no reason other than that they weren’t the first to do what I did. Today no one can turn their own micropublishing idea into a Twit…

That’s life though. This is one of the first ‘it’s a you’ problem everyone has to get over sooner or later. Sorry, it’s sounds dismissive, but there’s really no other answer to this.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#35

Just as interesting to me is the MVP screenshot that precedes this photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/jackdorsey/182614595/in/photos...

This is how MVPs are done, and should be done, in 2020, still, every time.

What was interesting about that MVP is that it was fun to use, even with just the 15 or so people in the office. And it was still fun to use when it was opened up to fifty close friends and family a few weeks later. Not all social software works with so few people while also scaling to work with so many people.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#36
post #6

Noah Glass got hosed.

I like Noah, but I don't think this is really true.

Twitter was spun out of Odeo and that spin out was based on Ev's money and Jack's idea.

In the spin out, Ev & Jack were basically recruiting out of the Odeo team. Some of us didn't want to go along. I just up and quit, I was so frustrated there. But Noah did want to continue and wasn't taken along.

This all went down when Twitter was in a very, very weak position, i.e. didn't really have any value other than the fact that Ev & Jack wanted to work on it. It probably had 200 users or even less. This is a classic case of the idea is worthless and the execution is everything. Ev & Jack were the ones carrying the ability to execute this.

So, Noah getting hosed really comes down to he wanted a job and didn't get it. I know that hurts, but it doesn't deserve to be the scandal that Nick Bilton made it out to be.

For the scandal to work, people try to latch on to Twitter being prototyped inside the Odeo corporate entity which would make Noah a founder. That entity was dead though. Audio blogging and podcasting directories didn't work in 2005. That's what Noah really co-founded. And so in the break up of the company, Ev bought all the assets. There was no other buyer, no other source of funding, or even a desire to keep any of the products alive. Noah did end up with stock in the new Twitter and that makes it a pretty good outcome for him.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it’s inspiring. A lot of our ideas look as simple as that, and it’s good from time to time to remember that it can be done.

I find it infuriating. It drives home how insurmountable someone else’s first mover advantage and subsequent network effects can be. I say this as someone who had great success in my niche, I’m often angry about my own success and sympathize with my competitors who failed to catch up for no reason other than that they weren’t the first to do what I did. Today no one can turn their own micropublishing idea into a Twit…

> Twitter will just clone its features

Facebook clones features or as a company has various spin offs. I thought twitter stayed pretty true to form?

Although your point stands. If you are using a cool feature to differentiate and that feature is cloneable, there is risk that one of the large players will implement it.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

#39

If we had the sketch to how toilet paper was first developed would we hold it this level of reverence? What is the fascination with such trivial technologies grabbing a mindshare?

Because it’s inspiring. A lot of our ideas look as simple as that, and it’s good from time to time to remember that it can be done.

I see what you are saying. But to me it's uninspiring. It cannot be replicated. It's a simple tool that's overblown. There isn't a technology behind it. I just saw a piece of news saying it took their engineering and design team many months if not a year to rollout a simple design change. That's not inspiring at all. If anything this would be something I would strive hard to avoid.

Neither the technology nor the product seem to jump out of the paper... Just like toilet paper. Which is not bad but doesn't require more attention.

The other problem is around this set of ideas that grab users attention for quick bites that are essentially empty calories. I feel that these are gamified, product hacked versions that are hard to replicate but ultimately not inspiring.

Re: Twttr sketch (2006)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and they’re all years behind AIM profile updates with the hottest linkin park lyrics

There were statuses in ICQ and Skype too

"Profiles" and "Away Messages", right? Different name, same thing. I'm not sure what I'm getting at.
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