Bored? How about trying a Linux speed run?

Post by anthk » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 1:42 PM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #54

anthk wrote: post #31

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Getting it from a Gopher mirror would be even easier, the protocol is barebones. But bash is cheating, you can write an IRC/FTP/Gopher client in seconds and fetch all the info and documentation from here. You can browse the wikipedia, read an HN mirror, play IF games and even seek Gutenberg from Bash as I can see by just connecting to the port 70 and doing simple Gopher queries. That's too easy then. If the shell is…

I guess that the task is really underspecified (maybe intentionally to have different speed runs). It makes a huge difference whether you have a kernel with a TCP/IP stack, a C compiler, a C library with the socket API, etc. The point of the shell example is, that once you have some way to easily open a socket, you can bootstrap a more complete system very quickly. You download a more complete root image from your fa…

Post by genera1 » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 1:45 PM UTC

DCKing wrote: post #79

qeternity wrote: post #63

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That “nothing” is everything.

Yeah, "nothing" is a really poor term to summarize "Apple made fundamentally superior choices in terms of hardware development, software integration and general OS input architecture in the past 15 years". I use both Windows and Fedora enthusiastically on desktop machines, but recognize that even high-end Windows laptops have trouble matching my 2012 Macbook in terms of input. Apple has been miles ahead of the compet…

Post by billfruit » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

willvarfar wrote: post #32

jeroenhd wrote: post #16

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As someone who can't be bothered to pay the Apple tax, what does the Macbook trackpad do that others don't? My experience with different mouse acceleration configs (Windows, Synaptics, Linux) has only been negative.

I don’t have a clue about _why_, but I know from using macOS and Linux on mbp that whereas the touchpad basically works in macOS, it totally doesn’t function in Linux! :( In Linux, wrists keep triggering touch events as you type. Screens start scrolling, focus goes to random things, and everyone swears. You end up having to hold your hands right over the keyboard in a very unnatural way to avoid accidental mouse inte…

Post by anthk » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 1:51 PM UTC

zokier wrote: post #115

29athrowaway wrote: post #72

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Yes. Also accessible as a file, since everything is a file. echo "foo" > /dev/tcp/host/port

/dev/tcp is ugly hack in bash, not something provided by kernel. nc is arguably the more canonical way of doing networking in shell.

    #include 

    int main(){

    int c;

    while((c =getchar()) != EOF){

    putchar(c);

    }

    }

Post by tom_mellior » Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 1:53 PM UTC

lwh wrote: post #85

tom_mellior wrote: post #80

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> We had to bootstrap from nothing originally too. I doubt that the original Unix was written without an editor, using only cat. Of course some earlier interactive system at one point did have to come up without an interactive editor... but still I'd think it's much more likely that the editor was written off-line and fed into the system on punched cards or tape rather than cat'ed from the terminal. The original post…

it had 'ed' the precursor to ex and vi editors. The terminal they used was paper so not quite ready for a visually oriented editor! ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_33 ) If you're stuck on a basic system or rescue shell, cat and echo are considerably more straightforward if you don't know how to use ed already.