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Post by kenhwang »

thekyle wrote: post #132
thanksforfish wrote: post #67

> A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop Looking at the typical Amazon concern that "longer load times cost millions in sales" that you hear, it's crazy to think that gmail doesn't measure the uncached load time (or they do and are happy with 20 seconds). Anecdata: I mostly use my phone for email, so most of the time I load the gmail web interface the cache is cold and it takes this long…

I imagine the logic is that people usually keep Gmail open in a tab which might be reloaded once per day. So people aren't likely to switch email providers because of 20 seconds a day. That said, I've found Gmail to be pretty sluggish even after loading, so I use it via email clients with my other accounts.

My Gmail tab that I leave pinned regularly loses connection and stops updating. It seems more and more these days Google things just break when you don't use Chrome. Using Gmail with Firefox hasn't felt fast in a long while.

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Post by inapis »

aorth wrote: post #200

> Ability to use multiple aliases. I want to have site_name@rolisz.ro, besides the main address I will give out, but still have everything come in to my main inbox. It's not an alias, but you can effectively get this for free with any mail provider by using a plus sign (+). For a really extreme (and awesome) example, see: http://www.jacobsen.no/anders/blog/archives/2002/08/24/email... He suggests using emails like: a…

Sites have started being smart about it. I also now know of services which won’t allow you to create an account if the string contains the service name in it.

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Post by Legogris »

degski wrote: post #236
eitland wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I mostly agree. I already use duckduckgo. It is not as good as Google used to be but a lot less annoying - and Google is not as good as it used to be either, so I consider duckduckgo best now. Also trying with Google after duckduckgo is faster than the other way around. I already Signal but although more and more people join, nobody uses it for day-to-day texts and family updates. Everyone I know uses Telegra…

> Also trying with Google after duckduckgo is faster than the other way around. And with the '!g'-bang you can still have privacy and use google.

How would this yield better privacy than searching directly from Google?

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Post by lifty »

delsarto wrote: post #89
meagher wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post is about “owning” your email address so you can move, not moving to a new provider.

As the recent changes to .org show, though, after a while the domain owns you rather than the other way around! I am trying to move away from gsuite. The thing with forwarding from there is that it goes through spam there first, meaning you really have to check it (my accountant screwed up their spf records recently, leading to a lot of confusion). Using the account directly sucks, you have constant switching and gsu…

Let’s hope handshake.org will solve this problem. The difficult part to overcome is adoption.

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Post by rootsudo »

Moving away from Gmail isn't that hard. It's on my list forever, but an Subscription to O365 and an IMAP migration is both great because:

A: You're paying Microsoft for a service, and that has many more features than gMail.

B: I believe Microsoft is more transparent than Google.

C: You remove the identity (IAM) part of Google from your Email and separate yourself from Google's Ecosystem.

D: Finally doing an IMAP migration gives you an independent copy of all your email to date. You can also download all your data from Google too, through some obscure settings page.

Having your own domain. Enable SPF. Enable DMARC/DKIM if you dare. Enable hard failure on SPF.

All that you need.

Running your own server is HARD there are projects that make it easier like mailinabox, but it is HARD and annoying work. If you ever want to see how annoying it can be, load up shodan.io and just look up postfix CVE + postfix version numbers.

Granted O365/Exchange is it's own thing and can become a headache, but there is tons of support available and it's meant to be portable and easy to move away from.

gMail is Google. Google is designed to trap you in forever. :(

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

fishmaster wrote: post #234
sakisv wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some possible alternatives you could try: For search engine I'd suggest duckduckgo, it's far from perfect but I don't see any other viable alternative, if anyone knows anything please let us know. For messaging I would suggest Signal. The problem there is that most people don't know of it and they won't ditch whatsapp to go on something that their friends won't be on. That's the same problem that a new social network…

For programming related things (in general, everything non mainstream), I find ddg to be nearly unusable and I always have to go back to Google. The results I get on ddg are almost always only in the general area of the search terms, while Google gives me specific results that are relevant and helpful. Sadly that's why I can't switch as much as I want to.

I do not find this; I've been using ddg exclusively for several years now.

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Post by marie37 »

I moved away from gmail, as I started my own business, the webshop https://kaninbutikken.dk , to my own mail. So now I both have a personal mail and a business email. However, I have some issues with the fact that many of my mails from my new emails end in the spam filter. I cannot figure out what I can do to make sure that my future mails doesn't end in the spam filter. I didn't have this problem, when I used my gmail. Do any of you guys have the same issues?

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Post by rootsudo »

marie37 wrote: post #247

I moved away from gmail, as I started my own business, the webshop https://kaninbutikken.dk , to my own mail. So now I both have a personal mail and a business email. However, I have some issues with the fact that many of my mails from my new emails end in the spam filter. I cannot figure out what I can do to make sure that my future mails doesn't end in the spam filter. I didn't have this problem, when I used my gma…

It's most likely not setting up your SPF record. Most email servers reject email that do not contain an SPF DNS record.

Then there's also general reputation, and blocking non US TLD's.

It depends, you really need to have the other party check their email server logs or do a mail trace to find out WHY but then comes the chicken and egg - how can you contact someone via email if their server is automatically purging your communications.

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Post by distances »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #72
starpilot wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more worried that PM is still fairly new and in beta. These hobby businesses come and go, and changing one's email is a huge pain. What's saying that PM will be around for 10+ more years, like Gmail has?

This is mostly because changing your email address is a huge pain. Once you're using your own domain, changing email providers is like changing web hosts or domain registrars: Some work but not a big deal.

Or, as an easier solution, a dedicated email forwarding service. I've been using one for about 15 years now and changed the actual email service provider a couple of times just by updating the forwarding address.

Of course then the problem is to identify a reliable email forwarding service that won't go anywhere.

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Post by distances »

timwis wrote: post #196

I switched from Gmail to Fastmail a year ago and I really miss how Gmail filtered things into primary/social/updates/forums. I feel overwhelmed with a single inbox, and can’t possibly keep up with my own custom filters. The result is I’m likely to miss something important. Does anyone have a solution for this?

Do you feel like you're getting something out of all those email updates? My solution was to simply cut down the amount of incoming mail. Nowadays I receive about three emails a day, with some days of zero emails in between. Feels like a good number to me personally.
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