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Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by KitDuncan »

knr2345 wrote: post #155
codethief wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took me a while to figure this out but I've now settled with the following: - mail@firstlast.tld for personal emails directed at me only and written by a human being, i.e. emails that warrant my personal response - @firstlast.tld for automated emails from services like Amazon, Facebook, eBay, HN, …. These are usually computer-generated emails that don't warrant a response, so they are merely notifications. The nea…

Do you have a method for quickly creating new aliases on the fly? My setup is nearly the same. I use two domains such as firstlast.tld and genericwords.tld. Genericwords.tld has umbrella aliases for social, apps, subscriptions, orders, etc. I have rules setup up per umbrella alias to delete after 30 days, or always mark as read, or never mark as read. I originally had service/site specific aliases in mind for easy de…

Just use a catchall and you have to do nothing.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by mattlondon »

beagle3 wrote: post #13
bmarquez wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoho Mail only costs $2 more per year vs PurelyMail (it's shown on PurelyMail's website along with other competitors) and also avoids the "one man show" problem. I'm not sure saving $2 a year is worth using a self-proclaimed (according to its website) beta service. Then again Gmail was in beta for many years.

Last I checked, Zoho was per address; This guy specifically looked for domain support (meaning, potentially hundreds of addresses). PurelyMail seems to charge by storage, not mailbox address; and AFAIK so does Migadu (which, up until reading this post, I thought was unique in that).

Zoho offers catch-all adresses on their service so one inbox can handl hundreds of adresses.

Not exactly the same as hundreds of individual addresses/inboxes, but may fit some people's needs.

I've been using Zoho like this now for a little while and I am pretty happy with it considering the price.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by abdabab »

soufron wrote: post #77

This really seems like a bad solution to me. Any domain name provider will allow you to create personalized mail addresses for a total cost of around 10$/y. Then -> imap -> Thunderbird. And you're set for life with a nearly unlimited set of features. It's easy to backup. It can sync between different computers and mobile phones. I don't get why he would chose something else.

Does that setup allow you to check mails from multiple computers and phones?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by KitDuncan »

akssri wrote: post #21

Gandi may also be an option here - a domain registered with them comes with two free mailboxes, each with a few GBs of space and calendar support. (Yes, yes, this is the same company that lost the data on their cloud servers.)

mhm, are they good? I have my domains there, but never considered using them for my emails. are catchall emails possible?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by KitDuncan »

abdabab wrote: post #183
soufron wrote: post #77

This really seems like a bad solution to me. Any domain name provider will allow you to create personalized mail addresses for a total cost of around 10$/y. Then -> imap -> Thunderbird. And you're set for life with a nearly unlimited set of features. It's easy to backup. It can sync between different computers and mobile phones. I don't get why he would chose something else.

Does that setup allow you to check mails from multiple computers and phones?

Of course. You can setup your IMAP mailbox on any device. You can even use your Gmail or Apple Mail Apps to set it up on your phone.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by remus »

floo wrote: post #142
nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

For me gmail loads and becomes interactive in under 2 seconds on an empty cache. I did not expect it to be that slow for other people. That said I do practice inbox zero, so it might just be spending time on loading a lot of mail?

Load times seem very variable. Loading any label (from 10s to 10,000s of emails) is <1 sec for me.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

euske wrote: post #144
nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

I heard that GMap is also getting slow, and so is Chrome (although I don't use them personally). I'm curious how the company's culture has shifted over year. Or maybe it hasn't shifted, and there's always a push for feature creep. I don't know. It'd be interesting to hear someone who know how this could happen.

> and so is Chrome

Yeah, I'm shocked how much slower Chrome is than Firefox here in 2020. Never expected this.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by remus »

thekyle wrote: post #132
thanksforfish wrote: post #67

> A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop Looking at the typical Amazon concern that "longer load times cost millions in sales" that you hear, it's crazy to think that gmail doesn't measure the uncached load time (or they do and are happy with 20 seconds). Anecdata: I mostly use my phone for email, so most of the time I load the gmail web interface the cache is cold and it takes this long…

I imagine the logic is that people usually keep Gmail open in a tab which might be reloaded once per day. So people aren't likely to switch email providers because of 20 seconds a day. That said, I've found Gmail to be pretty sluggish even after loading, so I use it via email clients with my other accounts.

This seems quite a common complaint, but gmail has always been pretty snappy for me. I wonder what causes the variability?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by virgoerns »

crispinb wrote: post #177

Can anyone recommend tools for removing email duplicates? I have a mess of archived email from different sources I intend one day to consolidate onto a decent IMAP provider. Over the years I've done all kinds of forwarding from one account to another, been in & out of gmail,etc. It's a bit of a mess, and consolidation would result in me using much more storage than I need because of dupes. A trustworthy deduping tool…

I use mutt for that which modifies local maildir so it's super fast. Commands are: "D~=$". Then it's just a matter of syncing local changes back e.g. with mbsync.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by timc3 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #14
bmarquez wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoho Mail only costs $2 more per year vs PurelyMail (it's shown on PurelyMail's website along with other competitors) and also avoids the "one man show" problem. I'm not sure saving $2 a year is worth using a self-proclaimed (according to its website) beta service. Then again Gmail was in beta for many years.

Indeed. I honestly would never go cheap on email again. People have traditionally expected it to be free, but it's the most crucial point of my online presence: I need to be able to rely on it and it needs to be good. In my opinion, the fact that people would pay more for Netflix than their email provider is kinda crazy, when you think about their relative importance.

Email is obviously really important, but the cost of running Netflix is extremely different to running an email service and I would take that into account with the pricing.

But I think Netflix is extremely cheap/good value if you enjoy the content.

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