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Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by ekovarski »

wheresvic3 wrote: post #35
rakoo wrote: post #17

Unaffiliated, I found migadu ( https://www.migadu.com/en/index.html ) to be extremely easy to set up and having a nice ui to work with. Gives you only the basics but that's all you need. As they say, storage space is not an issue in the 21st century, so the only differentiator between plans is the only thing that matters: the number of outgoing emails. You can have as many domains, as many aliases and as many address…

I used migadu for a couple of years and they were great initially but over the past 4-5 months, I've experienced really degraded service when accessing email and setting tags, deleting etc. Over the last month, I started getting login timeouts and that was the last straw. Recently I noticed that they put up an announcement saying that they are running at very high loads due to the COVID-19 situation. I'm not quite su…

They were shuffling services around and I think they had a notice in Feb on their portal to the effect but, yeah, they definitely need to start using a status page and twitter for updates; most customers just want a heads up and be informed of what is happening.

Service is reliable, considering the cost, but communication isn't their forte esp for an email company. :)

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Post by floo »

nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

For me gmail loads and becomes interactive in under 2 seconds on an empty cache. I did not expect it to be that slow for other people.

That said I do practice inbox zero, so it might just be spending time on loading a lot of mail?

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Post by thekyle »

jw14 wrote: post #139
masnick wrote: post #105

I switched from Gmail to Fastmail back in 2013 [1] and haven't looked back. Fastmail has continued to make significant improvements, while keeping the interface lean and functional. It seems to me like $3/month is worth it for a service as critical as email. [1]: https://www.maxmasnick.com/2013/07/19/fastmail/ and discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6069944

I agree $3/month is reasonable for email, but since the encryption backdoor laws passed in Australia in Dec 2018, I've been avoiding Australian software.

Would the Australian encryption laws impact Fastmail that much? AFAIK their emails were never encrypted at rest to begin with so someone with a warrant could always have gotten in.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by euske »

nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

I heard that GMap is also getting slow, and so is Chrome (although I don't use them personally). I'm curious how the company's culture has shifted over year. Or maybe it hasn't shifted, and there's always a push for feature creep. I don't know. It'd be interesting to hear someone who know how this could happen.

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Post by lonelappde »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #10
hinkley wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet we tell each other that if you run a small business it's important to remember you can fire a customer.

I think it's very important for customers to be able to trust the business though. This means the business relationship should have clearly defined terms and both parties should be expected to follow them. Unfortunately, the trend is for services to have take it or leave it terms and to essentially be written to hold them blameless while letting them do whatever they want. A legally sound strategy, but not one that e…

> And I'd argue being able to trust your email provider is very important.

Since a billion people use less trustworthy providers, apparently not.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by masnick »

jw14 wrote: post #139
masnick wrote: post #105

I switched from Gmail to Fastmail back in 2013 [1] and haven't looked back. Fastmail has continued to make significant improvements, while keeping the interface lean and functional. It seems to me like $3/month is worth it for a service as critical as email. [1]: https://www.maxmasnick.com/2013/07/19/fastmail/ and discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6069944

I agree $3/month is reasonable for email, but since the encryption backdoor laws passed in Australia in Dec 2018, I've been avoiding Australian software.

You should take a look at https://fastmail.blog/2018/09/10/access-and-assistance-bill/. They say it doesn’t affect their customers.

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Post by rovr138 »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

I have first@firstlast.com I also have mynickname.com

I use the mynickname.com one to signup to services and firstlast.com for personal.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by rovr138 »

sneak wrote: post #81

Keeping years and years of old emails on the server is a bad idea whilst subjected to the third party doctrine, which holds that the government snoops can access your emails without a warrant due to the fact that you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy if you are storing your emails on a hosted server. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stored_Communications_Act How often do you need the mails from years ago?…

Sure, but backups would still be an issue and there's also a copy on the sender outbox or recipient's inbox.

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Post by marban »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

mail@first.tld private + first@last.com business
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