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Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by ValentineC »

remram wrote: post #115
vzaliva wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

any provider can ban your account. my recourse is to switch my domain. I do not use @gmail.com address - I use my own domain with google mail.

I considered doing that, but decided against it because domain names are rented and not permanently yours. If I ever stop paying, make a mistake, or pass away, anyone can grab it and password-recover their way in all my accounts... I'm not sure if it's a good trade-off...

> If I ever stop paying, make a mistake, or pass away, anyone can grab it and password-recover their way in all my accounts... I'm not sure if it's a good trade-off...

If you have the cash available to do so, the best practice is to renew your domain for 10 years, and then add an extra year every year.

I'm surprised there aren't nonprofits that an individual can entrust a lump sum payment to, to keep our domains renewed for tens or hundreds of years.

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Post by ValentineC »

ozim wrote: post #58
fuzzy2 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running a (1) mail server is not enough. You need fault tolerance. And then of course spam filtering, DKIM and whatnot, maybe a nice web interface, ... Running an SMTP server is easy. The rest? Not so much. Rolling your own is great. However, it's not for most people and requires constant monitoring and maintenance.

For personal mail? I don't need fault tolerance if it is going to be down for 10 hours I don't care. If I run it I am going to fix it anyway and retry registration process for whatever I needed mail. Spam filtering use 10minute mail or something for crap that you don't care. Give your mail address to people and companies you actually want to deal with. Better just keep some spam box on free provider where you sign up…

> DKIM and stuff does not matter if you send ONE EMAIL A MONTH or two.

DKIM matters if you want to not have to tell people to check their spam box whenever you correspond with them via email.

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Post by heywire »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

first@firstlast.com for me. Happy FastMail user too.

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Post by heywire »

TrueDuality wrote: post #99

I've been considering doing a similar thing but I'm in a different situation with Gmail. I hopped on to their business domains when they were initially released (and free) and I'm still grandfathered into their free plan. I use the account as my primary Google account which includes purchased Android apps, and I make pretty heavy use of that Google Drive with several external organizations. I'd like to move just my e…

I made this same move a couple years ago and still have no problem logging into my account.

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Post by ValentineC »

jvolkman wrote: post #24
rolisz wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GSuite has some quirks when it comes to personal usages. For example, you can't use it for Family Groups, which allows me to share a YouTube Premium account with my wife.

Pretty sure a PurelyMail account will also not work for these things.

I think a Google Account linked to a non-GSuite account might work for Family Groups.

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Post by codethief »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

It took me a while to figure this out but I've now settled with the following:

- mail@firstlast.tld for personal emails directed at me only and written by a human being, i.e. emails that warrant my personal response

- @firstlast.tld for automated emails from services like Amazon, Facebook, eBay, HN, …. These are usually computer-generated emails that don't warrant a response, so they are merely notifications.

The neat thing about this approach is that:

a) the list of email aliases contains all the services I've signed up for, ever

b) I can easily stop a service from sending me emails by simply deleting the alias. In particular, if an email address leaks to spammers, I simply delete it.

c) I can distinguish between personal and non-personal email and can prioritize accordingly. I look at my personal emails more often than at my non-personal ones.

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Post by tobysemmel »

1f60c wrote: post #107
tobysemmel wrote: post #73

> Privacy stuff is not a part of my requirements. Can you send me a zip file containing all of your emails then? Oh, you don’t want to do that? Funny how even people who claim they don’t care about privacy actually really value privacy.

I read this as "I don't care if my emails get mined to show me ads", not "I'll send out copies of all my email to random HN users".

I can mine it for ads if he wants

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Post by thekyle »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

For a while I had first@last.email but I got tired of paying for the last.email domain, so I now use contact@firstlast.com where I also use firstlast.com for my website.

Also, I have a few other emails like accounts@firstlast.com (for signing up to websites), travel@firstlast.com, business@firstlass.com, etc.

The way I have it set up is a wildcard *@firstlast.com and filters to move username@firstlast.com to a folder called username. So I can come up with new email addresses on the spot for specific purposes. Like when I go to the doctor I might give them health@firstlast.com

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Post by news_to_me »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

I had a few email addresses for a while, and the one that I stuck with was created with the goal of being as short as possible (since back then, I had to type my email into sites on my phone a lot). I was lucky to get my initials as a domain, so I made it . 8 characters – haven't seen a shorter one yet.

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Post by wildchild »

Felz wrote: post #40
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #3

I am very surprised a "one man show" was the author's final choice here: What if the one man gets hit by a bus? FastMail is probably worth the increased cost to avoid that concern alone. But in general, I am excited to see anyone moving to their own email domain, decentralized is how email was always supposed to be. EDIT: A huge terms issue with PurelyMail is "The Company may, at its sole discretion, terminate servic…

Hi! I am the "Scott" from Purelymail in question. In the hopefully unlikely event I'm hit by a bus, I do have friends who could step in to keep it running for a while. One of my infrastructural goals is also to have it run itself without manual intervention, where feasible. It's not 100% there yet, though. (Hence the beta.) As to the terms of service, as far as I know the clause you quoted is fairly standard cover-yo…

GFY.
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