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Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by RandomBacon »

Felz wrote: post #40
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #3

I am very surprised a "one man show" was the author's final choice here: What if the one man gets hit by a bus? FastMail is probably worth the increased cost to avoid that concern alone. But in general, I am excited to see anyone moving to their own email domain, decentralized is how email was always supposed to be. EDIT: A huge terms issue with PurelyMail is "The Company may, at its sole discretion, terminate servic…

Hi! I am the "Scott" from Purelymail in question. In the hopefully unlikely event I'm hit by a bus, I do have friends who could step in to keep it running for a while. One of my infrastructural goals is also to have it run itself without manual intervention, where feasible. It's not 100% there yet, though. (Hence the beta.) As to the terms of service, as far as I know the clause you quoted is fairly standard cover-yo…

> friends who could step in

"could" or "would"? Is there something in place, and have they agreed to this?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by joering2 »

nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

It actually is. It has some tweaks done so that no matter what device you on it still runs most functionality.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by ValentineC »

nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

I miss the old, snappy interface, and held out for the longest time until they forced G Suite users to move over some time in 2019.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by agumonkey »

nicoburns wrote: post #90

> Another reason because of which I'm leaving GMail is because it's kinda slow. A full load with an empty cache takes about 20 seconds on my desktop (good specs, wired Internet connection). Loading a folder with 184 emails takes 2.5 seconds. I don't understand how Gmail managed to get to this point. One of the original selling points of Gmail was the snappy interface. And it's regressed massively. And it's not like t…

yeah you just reminded me that gmail is the new old hotmail

seduction makes everyone do its best, over time you rot

time for a new challenger ?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by remram »

vzaliva wrote: post #100
nullc wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering the importance of email that you mention: What is your plan if google suddenly bans your account? Google might not go anywhere but your access to it might. And when their automation directs them to ban an account, there is essentially no recourse-- they won't even respond to you.

any provider can ban your account. my recourse is to switch my domain. I do not use @gmail.com address - I use my own domain with google mail.

I considered doing that, but decided against it because domain names are rented and not permanently yours. If I ever stop paying, make a mistake, or pass away, anyone can grab it and password-recover their way in all my accounts... I'm not sure if it's a good trade-off...

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by wycy »

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by ValentineC »

delsarto wrote: post #89
meagher wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post is about “owning” your email address so you can move, not moving to a new provider.

As the recent changes to .org show, though, after a while the domain owns you rather than the other way around! I am trying to move away from gsuite. The thing with forwarding from there is that it goes through spam there first, meaning you really have to check it (my accountant screwed up their spf records recently, leading to a lot of confusion). Using the account directly sucks, you have constant switching and gsu…

> The thing with forwarding from there is that it goes through spam there first, meaning you really have to check it (my accountant screwed up their spf records recently, leading to a lot of confusion).

If you're on paid G Suite, you can tweak the Default routing setting [1] in Google Admin to forward all emails to a different domain.

I believe this bypasses Gmail's spam filter (Google might reject some mail during SMTP — I've never had a problem with mail delivery to Google though, unlike to Hotmail).

[1] https://support.google.com/a/answer/2368153?hl=en

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by Terretta »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

Use a time machine and get first@last.com

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by icebraining »

thanksforfish wrote: post #39
yumraj wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair comment, but all of those concerns are mitigated if you: 1) use your own domain(s) 2) take frequent backups so, even if the purely mail dies, you have access to historical emails and since you own the domains you can migrate to another provider pretty quickly and again, since you own the domain any accounts that are connected to that email address/domain combo are not impacted.

How many people are actively backing up their email on their own? Backing up email seems much simpler than running your own email server, but it's still going to require some technical know how. To me, the comment that you can just manage your own backups suggests that the service isn't right for anyone nontechnical or technical people who are too busy to backup a hosted service.

In Roundcube, you can just click "More → Download folder" to get a backup of an email folder.

Installing Thunderbird and configuring the account, while more involved than the above, is still within reach of many non-technical users.

I think most people don't backup because they don't think they need to, rather than because they are unable. Unfortunately, they're wrong.

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