France rules Google must pay news firms for content

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Post by us0r » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 4:36 PM UTC

France rules Google must pay news firms for content
reuters.com

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Post by Sujan » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:33 PM UTC

I wish Google would finally go with the kneejerk reaction of just unlisting all these sites from Google Search and News.

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Post by m-p-3 » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:34 PM UTC

Are they (news firms) going to charge a fee to access RSS feeds at some point now?

That judgment seems to be absurd, especially if they only provided a snippet of the article for data discovery purpose.

I'm not sure that would help those news firms if they get blackholed from Google altogether.

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Post by jimmaswell » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:34 PM UTC

Europe's not going to stop until the internet is totally burned to the ground, are they?

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Post by blakesterz » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:36 PM UTC

I think this is the actual judgement?

https://www.autoritedelaconcurrence.fr/fr/communiques-de-pre...

This techcrunch post has more details than Reuters:

https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/09/frances-competition-watchd...

Abusive practices the agency says it suspects Google of at this stage of its investigation are:

The imposition of unfair trading conditions; circumvention of the law; and discrimination (i.e. because of its unilateral policy of zero renumeration for all publishers)

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:36 PM UTC

jimmaswell wrote: post #4

Europe's not going to stop until the internet is totally burned to the ground, are they?

Or the illegal monopoly controlling it is.

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Post by gambiting » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:37 PM UTC

jimmaswell wrote: post #4

Europe's not going to stop until the internet is totally burned to the ground, are they?

You mean the US, right?

Also these decisions are done on the national level - France can rule whatever they want, it has no impact on the other EU member states.

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:38 PM UTC

Sujan wrote: post #2

I wish Google would finally go with the kneejerk reaction of just unlisting all these sites from Google Search and News.

Essentially France has said Google, being a monopoly, is not allowed to refuse to provide this service. They must do it, they must pay for it.

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Post by mc32 » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:39 PM UTC

Sujan wrote: post #2

I wish Google would finally go with the kneejerk reaction of just unlisting all these sites from Google Search and News.

I agree, pull the plug on them. Let’s see what they say then.

I can’t imagine them forcing Google to list them but also pay them. Let’s see how organic traffic works for them.

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Post by trekrich » Sat, Apr 11, 2020, 6:39 PM UTC

Sujan wrote: post #2

I wish Google would finally go with the kneejerk reaction of just unlisting all these sites from Google Search and News.

They should, and when they come back asking for it all to be undone they should say no. Let them swim for a little bit so france does not try this again. This was tried in spain, and quickly reversed.