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Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

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Re: Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

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Demon internet used this, and I think maybe still do: http://echannel.www.demon.net/helpdesk/technicallibrary/sdu/... Funnily the images on the page actually show that they are using an evaluation copy! I've sent them an email referencing this story to see if they step up and at least make a donation. Would be great if some more people could email them as I don't see them taking a random email like I've sent seriousl…

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Re: Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

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I used to wake up in the middle of the night and sneak downstairs with my brother, lugging our family's first computer, a Compaq Presario all-in-one (similar to the gumdrop iMac) onto the dining room table so we could connect to the internet. With a 486DX2/66 and 4MB ram, we'd load up Tabworks and use the /worst/ browser in existence (don't recall the name, but it was probably a rip off of Mosaic) and dial out to IDT…

ATL0 was a great command that muted the modem so that your parents couldn't hear that you were dialing up. :-) Oh wow, now I feel old.

Wasn't ATH0+++ used to cause modem users to hangup via IRC CTCP requests? Good days.

Re: Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

#93
I'm happy to be able to say both that I realized how awesome Trumpet was back in the day, and that I made the choice to send Peter the $25 registration back when that was a harder choice than it is now. It's nice to be able to remember and renew my license, as it were. :-)

Re: Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

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I can confirm that the email is the one I passed on to Jacques. The PayPal account is a legit one I have used in the past and is registered under the business name Tattam Software. If I encounter any problems I will look into the other option. Thanks all... I had honestly thought the Internet had forgotten about me. Peter

Not forgotten. I still remember your PetrOS project -- the premise made me quite excited at the time!

Re: Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After you clear to the linked bank account, you need to be sure to move the money into a second account, as they are permitted by the terms of service to attempt to withdraw from your linked bank account any and all money they deem necessary up to the total amount received for all transactions for a good deal of time. I strongly advise you link a non-primary account for this reason.

Wouldn't they just attempt to withdraw it from a now empty bank account, leaving you with overdraft fees? EG let's say you have $100 in your paypal account, which you send to bank account A. From there, you send it to bank account B, leaving bank account A empty. Paypal decides to withdraw $100 from bank account A, leaving you with -$100 on A, and $100 on B?

Banks don't do negative balances. Some banks will automatically turn overdrafts into loans or withdraw them from another account, to prevent you from having a withdrawal or debit denied, but you can generally disable that "feature". In the absence of that, an attempt to withdraw more than an account contains will result in a denial of the withdrawal and possibly a fee (either to the withdrawer or the withdrawee or both, depending on the circumstances and what the bank thinks it can get away with).

In any case, moving the money to an account PayPal doesn't have access to puts you in the much better position of PayPal having to ask you for money, rather than you having to ask PayPal to give your money back. At that point, at most they can lock your PayPal account (which still screws you out of any more donations made before you can say "stop sending money to this PayPal account, you're donating to PayPal").

Re: Peter Tattam created Trumpet Winsock and got very little: Let's set things right

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post #38
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Just a warning, if it's a new paypal account and there are a bunch of donations, PayPal will lock the account and keep the money for themselves until he runs their gauntlet. Actually, they'll sometimes do that on accounts that are a decade old, but new accounts especially. Maybe use WePay instead with a target amount?

WePay doesn't work except in the US, which will do nought to get him money from outside the US, where he no doubt has fans to. Besides if PayPal is that stupid, we can always post to reddit that PayPal is stealing the guys money. Should cause enough of a problem that they open it again.

> Should cause enough of a problem that they open it again.

Do you have any examples of negative publicity leading to paypal correcting their mistake? I've never seen anything like that in any of the stories about paypal freezing accounts, even the fairly high profile ones.

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