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Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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John, this is an industry with a huge graveyard of failed startups doing the same thing. And the only ones left - Artsy, just went through a huge firing and recapping and I wouldnt give them long. Leaf group is trying to get rid of Saatchi in a fire sale and ArtFinder is barely break even with a team less than a dozen and making money from charging artists. So given this idea does not seem different than the many bef…

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As someone with particular domain knowledge (I worked in the art world for years and have many professional artist and gallerist friends), I don't I've ever seen an online art sales platform that actually understand the purpose of an art gallery--for both collectors and artists.

Galleries are not simply point of sale vendors for art. They establish a scene, they contextualize the art and the artists, and they make strategic decisions in how to cultivate the careers of their stable of artists via a number of different tactics:

0) By organizing solo shows. It seems silly to say this, but actually putting on shows is a critical element that is missing from these online sales platforms. Shows allow the artist to present a body of work and establish a narrative around it via reviews and and social scenes.

1) Connecting the artist, through sales or even social means, with relevant collectors. Collectors have different status' in the art world, different connections to other art world players, and have particular themes to their collections. By placing art in the right collections, a gallerist can make a significant impact on the career of an artist.

2) By organizing group shows, or using their influence to get their artists into other's group shows, which will then associate their artists with a scene or an institution.

3) Funding! A lot of art is _expensive_ to make. I have friends who have literally calculated how much it costs them per square inch to make a painting and it can be shocking. It is not uncommon for a gallerist to front a large sum of money leading up to a solo show.

Not all galleries will do all--or even any--of these things. However, these are the actions that define a good gallery. A good gallery is invested in an artist, much like a good VC firm is invested in a startup.

If a startup wants to 'disrupt' the art world, I think the first step would be to figure out how you are going to make a business that cultivates an artist's career over the long term and which establishes a real art scene involving both artists and collectors.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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Edit: huge props to the team for shipping a fix for this in minutes. --- I want to love this idea, but I struggle to get past the lack of full price when browsing. It says "$48 • 24 months" and expects me to intuit that the product costs $1152. Or rather, I worry that it expects me not to intuit that. Breaking the absolute price into a series of less frightening numbers to obscure the magnitude of a purchase feels sl…

Not to mention the fact that I suspect most people interested in purchasing fine art aren't exactly the type who care to finance the purchase.

Perhaps, but the first (and only) original painting I ever purchased was on layaway.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#194
Congrats on the launch!

Interestingly, me and my team developed and launched a very similar service early last year - https://goldcanvas.com/artworks

One of our core ideas is that if the artwork gets flipped by collectors and it changes hands multiple times, the artist gets a royalty (which is often not the case in the offline world).

I like your concept of monthly payments.

From the research that we did, it was surprising to us how much the artwork marketplace works offline and how opaque this entire world of Collectors and Curators is. There's definitely space to disrupt here.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#195
Looks fantastic and I hope this does well. Congratulations. And thank you.

Suggestion: Maybe move the pricing filters on the left side to the bottom of the filtering choices, just as a way to emphasize the works over the dollars.

Bug?: No matter which filters I select, or how many (even none), I'm shown there are 92 pages of results.

Best wishes with this.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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> So I love the idea, but to me it seems the challenge you face is how to present the art. Sorry I don't really have any great suggestions -- more views of each piece that allow for examining the technique? More careful lighting of the photos in a way the best complements the art? It is a big challenge and I don't have any great ideas. I agree with you on this! We're planning to roll out detail shots and installation…

John, I think this is a great idea! This is probably not a core competency in your platform, but I can imagine a lot of artists don’t have a resource to get decent photos taken ( not good camera, or understanding of composition, etc). Would there be some way to partner with local photographers to have them come out using your platform to either connect or maybe even pay for it? For example, $50 for the trip out and t…

I would really hope that any artist remotely close to pro has some understanding of composition!

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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Edit: huge props to the team for shipping a fix for this in minutes. --- I want to love this idea, but I struggle to get past the lack of full price when browsing. It says "$48 • 24 months" and expects me to intuit that the product costs $1152. Or rather, I worry that it expects me not to intuit that. Breaking the absolute price into a series of less frightening numbers to obscure the magnitude of a purchase feels sl…

I see this differently. Buyers are given a choice. Choose what works best for you. It's similar to buying an annual subscription vs. monthly installments. Overall, I like the product... much needed.
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