Japan to fund firms to shift production out of China

Post by aianus » Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:45 AM UTC

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It's not just the laws they need to figure out. Domestic pangolin use is illegal, so they just illegally import it

It baffles me. China has zero issue eliminating the slightest threat to the party. From book sellers in Hong Kong to religious minorities to the great firewall, no job too big, no threat too small. But apparently eliminating wet markets was unpopular and thats a no no. It worked when they did it after SARS. It saved a shit tonne of lives, it brought them one step closer to being a first world nation. But now its impo…

Post by henearkr » Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:53 AM UTC

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I think that the WHO communication was proportionate to the current knowledge at the time of each of their interventions. First of all they said, when it was clear there was a problem "We have a simple message for all countries: test, test, test." (and then Trump and almost everybody else did not want to hear that) And moreover they said more exactly, some time before the previous item, that "Preliminary investigatio…

No. The WHO constantly downplayed this pandemic and kowtowed to China to the point of disgracefully delaying calling it a pandemic and then playing catch-up when individual countries started ignoring the WHO and implemented their own measures. Then the WHO switched gears and complained that the countries were doing too little too late. They've been almost completely worthless in this crisis.

Post by abdulmuhaimin » Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:19 AM UTC

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In addition, WHO is heavily influenced by China; here is an interview with a senior WHO official who was asked about Taiwan - he simply hangs up the phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM

WHO does not officially recognize Taiwan because the UN does not officially recognize Taiwan, and the WHO is a UN organization. It is as simple as that. If you disagree then you gotta take it to the UN. The poor guys at the WHO just want to focus on fighting diseases, and yet everybody is trying to use them for political agendas. If I was that guy I would be inclined to shut down too.

Post by lliamander » Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:42 AM UTC

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A global government would have led to a more uniform response, but arguably that's exactly what we don't want in a crisis like this. Each nation was able to react differently, and those different responses have provided us the closest thing we have to controlled experiments. Those experiments have allowed us to understand the spread of this disease better.

The global response is pretty uniform (almost every country following the same strategy). But it was too slow, and too uncoordinated in the sense that different countries enacted their protective measures at different times, with little to no warning to others, resulting in unnecessarily severe disruptions of the supply chain.

Post by pkaye » Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 2:13 AM UTC

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> China knows this, which is why it has factories in both the E.U. and the United States filled with Chinese laborers churning things out so they can be labeled "Made in {$anywhere_but_China}." Can you mention one major factory in the US with Chinese laborers?

Define "major." There have been a number of articles in newspapers about this, including in a city where I lived recently. They set up entire self-contained communities.