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Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#171

I love what you are trying to do. My family has a few artists in it (none full-time enough to pay the rent) so I have a visceral understanding of the passion that drives your idea. After looking at several paintings, I found it difficult to get excited about any of them. Not because I didn't like them, but the web site just doesn't give the art presence. I mainly looked at oils and acrylics, and I could not get any i…

I also agree that the images matter a lot. All the photographs of paintings are taken against the same coloured wall. I don’t see why that shouldn’t be the background of the website too. I think it would make it look like there’s more space between the paintings.

I think if I were choosing something I liked, I’d want to just look at the pictures first (a gallery I suppose) without much distraction. On my screen there’s a load of search controls taking up a third of my screen (but maybe other people have a better idea of what they’re looking for).

It’s probably also worthwhile trying to make the images work with the wide gamut displays that are starting to become more common (mainly on various apple products) as they will magically just look a bit better/more colourful.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#173

John, this is an industry with a huge graveyard of failed startups doing the same thing. And the only ones left - Artsy, just went through a huge firing and recapping and I wouldnt give them long. Leaf group is trying to get rid of Saatchi in a fire sale and ArtFinder is barely break even with a team less than a dozen and making money from charging artists. So given this idea does not seem different than the many bef…

I can't help but acknowledge how accurate this comment is, this is a damn hard industry.

Here's all I'll add; you should really think about what problem you are solving and why. Is it true that artists don't sell art because buyers can't find it? Or is it rather that buyers are very specific about why, and from who, they buy art when they buy it?

One of the most important things successful artists do is market themselves well, even the "best" artist won't sell art without an audience and a brand, period. Perhaps instead of creating a marketplace you can create tools to help artists market themselves and build that audience, GL to you and the team.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#176
Congrats on the launch! Beautiful site. I'd like more info about how you ship the art before buying. I found your FAQ after a little digging, but it didn't really give me comfort that you ship using a method that is particularly suited to fine art. Also, I noticed a few listings say that they come framed. For these I'd want to see the frame, they vary so much in style and size.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#178
I hope the won’t-pay-$100-for-a-painting (or $100 per installment) crowd is large enough to make your business worthwhile. It’d be amazing to simultaneously fund new artists, bring regular Joes/Janes into the art world, and have a sustainable business at the same time.

But that little MBA demon on my shoulder is whispering that targeting low willingness-to-spend consumers will result in, at best, strongly limiting growth and, at worst, a perpetually money losing business. I’m just speculating since I don’t know your financials, so if you’re already in the black, my apologies. If you’re both in the black and don’t care about growth, apologies again.

But assuming you want to grow and/or aspire to be profitable, you’ll either need to grow the size of the art market (hard) or sell to wealthier (or at least, people who spend more of their money on art) consumers (less hard). Social proof is a huge factor for buyers of substantial art, to the point that a handful of people/galleries/etc get to define what constitutes great - and therefore very expensive - art (there was a great Adam Ruins Everything episode on this https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dw5kme5Q_Yo). My mom is very involved with the main art museum in my city, going on trips with other benefactors to buy art for the museum. She also buys art herself - not crazy expensive super known pieces like Damien Hurst’s shark, but still high-end pieces from up-and-coming artists (to put it another way, she buys pieces that aren’t in the $1 million+ range). She uses her own sensibilities primarily, but to find the art itself and ensure the price she’s paying isn’t for a dumpster, she relies on people in the art world.

So, I’m just suggesting you consider two characters of art consumers: (1) social proof drives their decisions and (2) there are often wealthier. Your creative juices might find something really innovative for the social proof component; I don’t have any specific suggestions at the moment. But on (2), consider targeting people in between Steven A Cohen (bought Hurst’s shark for $8-$12 million) and the <$100 art buyer. Given the success (until recently) of Restoration Hardware, I believe you could find people willing to pay $1,000-$10,000 for art. People pay thousands of dollars for a sofa, why not the art that’s on display in their homes? You could imagine quite a few professional, internet savvy DINCs (dual income no children) in their 30s or 40s being interested in having a substantial art piece. They may be intimidated by galleries and not know what to select. Just something to think about to boost your margins.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#179

I love what you are trying to do. My family has a few artists in it (none full-time enough to pay the rent) so I have a visceral understanding of the passion that drives your idea. After looking at several paintings, I found it difficult to get excited about any of them. Not because I didn't like them, but the web site just doesn't give the art presence. I mainly looked at oils and acrylics, and I could not get any i…

> So I love the idea, but to me it seems the challenge you face is how to present the art. Sorry I don't really have any great suggestions -- more views of each piece that allow for examining the technique? More careful lighting of the photos in a way the best complements the art? It is a big challenge and I don't have any great ideas. I agree with you on this! We're planning to roll out detail shots and installation…

> Also, while we don't have a concrete plan for it yet, it's clear that some artists need help photographing their work.

Absolutely. Photography is it's own media, with it's own techniques to master. I doubt many painters are going to have the necessary lighting equipment and the know-how to use it. Not that they couldn't -- it's just not their media. Some assistance from a specialist would help a great deal.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#180
This is a good idea - not 100% original, but the installments is a new spin, so I wish you well on the effort.

But - let us suppose this does take off and you end up with a large community of artists and buyers. How do you plan on letting artists get seen in what is now a crowded space? Many of your competitors frustrate artists because it becomes about marketing just to get visibility on the sites. Or it turns into a curated site, which puts the artists right back where they are with the galleries.

Any plans for how to scale this while avoiding such problems?

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