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Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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This is amazing! Have you thought about adding details about what materials the artists used besides noting the basic supplies like “canvas” and “oil stick”? As a buyer, some may be interested specifically on what colour name / brand of materials the artists used. And if ambitious, why they used those items over others?

This is a great idea. It's definitely something we will look into. I love the idea of being able to explore more of these details in detail.

Thanks for the update. Might be an interesting differentiating factor - always wondered why galleries like White Cube to auction sites like Christie’s lacked that granularity.

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#142
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I like the idea of making art more accessible by spacing out the payment. Congratulations on the launch! I won't comment on the art for sale, because I think it is too much in the eye of the beholder but I will give some feedback on your website and concept. - Why fixed installments? Why not say "this piece costs 300$ buy now, or pay 10 installments of 35$ or 20x20$" (forget the numbers, just an example). - why are t…

The cut is too high for the platform. I guess you take this number from Google/Apple store's commission. The difference is software on Google's store has infinite leverage and takes almost 0 to scale sales. Every piece of art takes lots of work and cannot scale in the same way. Art works do not scale like software. With this cut, I feel your platform is taking advantage of artists (they do not know where to sell) rat…

I worked in the art world for years. First as a studio assistant, then as an art prep for large galleries, then eventually I ran my own art fabrication business with a few employees.

A good gallery--emphasis on good--does a lot more then simply sell art to the highest bidder. They strategically place artists into 'important' collections, work with museum curators to bring the artists into a more critical narrative, get the artist into group shows and fairs internationally to contextualize the artist in a current scene or trend, collude with art critiques and magazines, and generally help to promote the artist's career over the long term.

All of this sounds somewhat silly outside the art world, but you have to remember that this is a very particular industry based around historicizing high-brow cultural production. When a good collector buys a painting, they are doing more then just buying a physical object they like. They are throwing their own clout behind the artist and saying "I think what this person is doing is important and I stand behind it."

All of this is done with the intention of increasing the profile of the artist which benefits--each in their own way--gallery, the artist, and the collector over the long term.

As far as the sales split between gallery and artist, standard split is roughly 50% with some variance around material expenses and whatnot.

Note, everything I am saying is the sort of ideal story and there are a lot of bad actors in the business. In reality I find the art world rather gross and the premises it is built upon to be deeply flawed.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#143
Very cool project — the site is gorgeous. I've long thought there should be a way to expand artists' reach outside the expensive, laborious, and dated gallery system, while preserving the dignity, quality, and price of the work.

I'd love to understand the differences between Art in Res and Saatchi Art.

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#144
post #134

- I don't really care much about the Covid-19 relief. If you are donating then good for you and for helping the community. But I do actually avoid websites/services that try to advertise donations as a selling point. I can donate myself if I want to. - Also, do not penalize artists who do not want to donate to Covid-19. That's their business. They might be giving more, through other ways, to the community. They might…

In addition to being NSFW, it's also a print, and I would be annoyed if I got it and didn't realize that. I think it's very easy to skip the line that says "limited edition print" especially given the material description being the original materials.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#145

I love what you are trying to do. My family has a few artists in it (none full-time enough to pay the rent) so I have a visceral understanding of the passion that drives your idea. After looking at several paintings, I found it difficult to get excited about any of them. Not because I didn't like them, but the web site just doesn't give the art presence. I mainly looked at oils and acrylics, and I could not get any i…

> So I love the idea, but to me it seems the challenge you face is how to present the art. Sorry I don't really have any great suggestions -- more views of each piece that allow for examining the technique? More careful lighting of the photos in a way the best complements the art? It is a big challenge and I don't have any great ideas. I agree with you on this! We're planning to roll out detail shots and installation…

John,

I think this is a great idea! This is probably not a core competency in your platform, but I can imagine a lot of artists don’t have a resource to get decent photos taken ( not good camera, or understanding of composition, etc). Would there be some way to partner with local photographers to have them come out using your platform to either connect or maybe even pay for it? For example, $50 for the trip out and to set up if within 30 miles, and then $20 per piece to digitize it with multiple angles and staging?

Either way, good luck with the platform and I’ve passed it along to my wife, who is an artist.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

#146

I love what you are trying to do. My family has a few artists in it (none full-time enough to pay the rent) so I have a visceral understanding of the passion that drives your idea. After looking at several paintings, I found it difficult to get excited about any of them. Not because I didn't like them, but the web site just doesn't give the art presence. I mainly looked at oils and acrylics, and I could not get any i…

> So I love the idea, but to me it seems the challenge you face is how to present the art. Sorry I don't really have any great suggestions -- more views of each piece that allow for examining the technique? More careful lighting of the photos in a way the best complements the art? It is a big challenge and I don't have any great ideas. I agree with you on this! We're planning to roll out detail shots and installation…

That reminds me of how the biggest thing that Airbnb did for growth in the early days was offer to send hosts a professional photographer to make their flat look more appealing. I bet you could do something similar.

Re: Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

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post #134

- I don't really care much about the Covid-19 relief. If you are donating then good for you and for helping the community. But I do actually avoid websites/services that try to advertise donations as a selling point. I can donate myself if I want to. - Also, do not penalize artists who do not want to donate to Covid-19. That's their business. They might be giving more, through other ways, to the community. They might…

> - I don't really care much about the Covid-19 relief. If you are donating then good for you and for helping the community. But I do actually avoid websites/services that try to advertise donations as a selling point. I can donate myself if I want to. > - Also, do not penalize artists who do not want to donate to Covid-19. That's their business. They might be giving more, through other ways, to the community. They might be tight with money. Whatever. But the way the website is presenting it is that these guys are the generous guys.

More than anything else, we rolled out the 'COVID-19 support' features because of what our artists were telling us. We got flooded by artists telling us that they wanted to use their art sales to raise money for COVID-19 relief. But we also knew that many artists are tight on cash, so we said "instead of sacrificing your cut, let us give our cut, and you can keep yours during this insane time." The last thing we wanted was to penalize anyone.

> - I don't know how New York is but this photo is NSFW and probably not so for families: https://artinres.com/artworks/marika-wagle-day-13-2020 You might want to have a filter for that.

You're right! It's time for us to implement filtering based on sensitive content.

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