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Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

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Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#21

It’s a shame because Zoom has good fundamental tech.

Source? All I hear is about how buggy and insecure the platform is. Edit: source, https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pranavdixit/google-bans...

It's not buggy like at all. And afaiu the security stuff has solutions that just aren't default (passwords, SSO)

Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#24

> Weekly status updates? Project kick-offs? Quarterly and monthly planning? Retrospectives? All are carried out asynchronously, in the form of structured write-ups in Nuclino. Another criticism of a controversial tech that is actually a pitch for a product. It's a Hacker News staple. Maybe I'm just getting too cynical.

"Meetings are not the problem, but our NUCLINO (tm)-centric workflow is" - People in 2029 after NUCLINO (tm) has raised $50 billion

Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#25

Some workflows require synchronous communications. Meetings, in person or virtual, are great for these. Other workflows work asynchronously. E-mail, IM and the like are great for these. Post-War America erred on the side of meetings, forcing asynchronous flows into artificial bottlenecks. Silicon Valley seems to have over-corrected, replacing ten-minute meetings with full-day Slack threads. Trying to force asynchrono…

Insightful. Was thinking about this recently. I find meetings are usually “make a decision”, “give updates”, or “show a demo”. For decision making, have been trying to optimize that workflow with teammates all over the world and not everyone having the time or not loving textual communication.

Seems like a master decision record in confluence, discussing finer points in a private slack channel, and demo and tie-breaking plus sync with busy or non text thinkers with ad hoc video meetings works well together. Another thing is quick prototypes of ux or architecture designs in codesandbox.

These all work well, but it would be great to have less overhead. Even on a small team though there are so many gaps it feels impossible to reconcile without all these.

Anyone have a team decision making workflow for spinning up new projects that is more efficient?

Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#26
How do we make our company look like an alternative to zoom when people look for that? I know, bash meetings and say that using another nondescript wiki/document tool is the right move. You waste so much more time having to write in a document and then going back to look at what other people have written as they do than just having a quick meeting. meetings are running long because people like social interaction and we are missing it.

Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#28

The meeting I find the biggest time waster is the "what I did yesterday, what am I doing today" meetings. Nothing better than sitting on a 45 minutes call while 15 people try to justify their existence to the pm on the fly. I find a slack channel called #status-updates works wonders. It persists, it's much faster to consume, it's searchable, and you don't have to read it if you don't need to.

> 15 people

seems like your standup team is too big.

Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#29

The meeting I find the biggest time waster is the "what I did yesterday, what am I doing today" meetings. Nothing better than sitting on a 45 minutes call while 15 people try to justify their existence to the pm on the fly. I find a slack channel called #status-updates works wonders. It persists, it's much faster to consume, it's searchable, and you don't have to read it if you don't need to.

Like anything those meetings can be fine.

I do those every day, they rarely last more than 20 minutes.

Re: Zoom Is Not the Problem – Our Meeting-Centric Workflow Is

#30
If your company is well managed then pretty much anything can work. Meetings can be short and to the point. Memos/emails can also be short and to the point. When everyone understands what the ultimate goals are and are allowed to work towards those goals communication is minimal.

Typically, though, goals are unclear and constantly shifting. From that flows multiple tasks that are all high priority up to the point they suddenly become irrelevant. In such an environment communication needs to be continuous. Continuous communication is by necessity synchronous.

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