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Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

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Re: Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

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Your Yale degree isn't going to mean anything in the 21st century. Everything that can be learned there can be learned on YouTube for free.

How can you be tested and kept accountable for what you are learning using YouTube?

How accurate is the information that non-expert can fetch?

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#72

Your Yale degree isn't going to mean anything in the 21st century. Everything that can be learned there can be learned on YouTube for free.

How can you be tested and kept accountable for what you are learning using YouTube? How accurate is the information that non-expert can fetch?

Same way people do now without degrees? Screening in phases. Live interview or video interview. You can actually tell a decent amount about a candidate over the course of a few hours if you ask right questions.

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#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you be tested and kept accountable for what you are learning using YouTube? How accurate is the information that non-expert can fetch?

Same way people do now without degrees? Screening in phases. Live interview or video interview. You can actually tell a decent amount about a candidate over the course of a few hours if you ask right questions.

This. Only about half of current developers in the market have a 4 year degree in computer science.

Re: Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

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post #67

They paid for a service and did not receive it. Many have even been kicked out of housing. Sounds like one party broke the contract regarding tuition. Pass or not it really makes no difference. College degrees are losing prestigiousness so who cares. In five years post graduation it really means little. You don't go to college to learn you go there for the degree to get into that first door.

We truly live in such amazing times, where the principle of the transaction is more important than the achieved competency. This isn't Walmart, it's an education system. If they're not getting educated, the degree is completely meaningless.

Exceptions set dangerous precedents.

Re: Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

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So how does this compare to Harvard, where students expect an automatic A even without Covid-19?

Why would that be true? (Asking as a non-American)

Obnoxious entitlement? Social pressure? Historical precedent? Why questions can't really be answered. But if you give someone a well-deserved B they cry in your office and then hammer you in their end-of-semester course review.

Re: Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

#78

In contrast and great irony, my local community college has announced that they will go online and expect full completion as usual - and the students have accepted it, because of course the academic culture at a white label school for tradesmen and transfer students would be more rigorous, serious and refined than the one at a national pride.

People in privileged positions tend to take opportunity for granted.

Re: Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would that be true? (Asking as a non-American)

Obnoxious entitlement? Social pressure? Historical precedent? Why questions can't really be answered. But if you give someone a well-deserved B they cry in your office and then hammer you in their end-of-semester course review.

I asked as a complete ignorant on American grade practices, and your answer differs completely from my (EU) experience - especially because we give reviews before exam sessions.

Re: Yale Students Demand Automatic 'Pass' Due to Covid-19

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post #55

Before we jump to conclusions... Undergraduates were forced off campus a few weeks ago. Imagine yourself in the shoes of an international student who left New Haven in a hurry. You're now required to attend online lectures at 3:00AM local time. Five nights a week. You don't have a reliable internet connection in your country. You lost your job when you left campus. You're missing out on office hours. You can't collab…

Relieve pressure, sure. Free pass? What? I mean they still need to do the coursework. The school should refund their tuition and room/board, and allow them to complete the semester later.

Pass/fail grades are not factored into GPA calculations at Yale anyways. The idea behind a "universal pass" system is that it completely eliminates grades for the semester without leaving that section of the transcript empty. It's more akin to a participation trophy than an unmerited gold medal.
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