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Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by mcphage »

dang wrote: post #66
trophycase wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes. Hard decisions about whether the new CEO will wipe his ass with that 11 billion, or use it as fuel for his fireplace. Decisions, decisions.

Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we ban accounts that do that because it kills the spirit of curious conversation, which this site exists for. If you wouldn't mind taking a look at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using HN in the intended spirit, we'd appreciate it. It's understandable that temperatures rise and pots boil over, but we…

> we all need to control ourselves in those areas, or else we end up ruining this place.

So you don’t think attitudes like what trophycase was responding to, ruins this site? I’ve known more programmers leave this site because of ugly attitudes worded civilly and so left unchecked, than because of responses like the one you’re complaining about. I think you’re threatening to ban the wrong people.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by lidHanteyk »

mcphage wrote: post #71
dang wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we ban accounts that do that because it kills the spirit of curious conversation, which this site exists for. If you wouldn't mind taking a look at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using HN in the intended spirit, we'd appreciate it. It's understandable that temperatures rise and pots boil over, but we…

> we all need to control ourselves in those areas, or else we end up ruining this place. So you don’t think attitudes like what trophycase was responding to, ruins this site? I’ve known more programmers leave this site because of ugly attitudes worded civilly and so left unchecked, than because of responses like the one you’re complaining about. I think you’re threatening to ban the wrong people.

Yeah, but like, you're asking for empathy from dang. They don't know what it's like to be an engineer on corporate salary, or how it feels to be paid a five-figure bonus for delivering a seven-figure feature. They can't reason about what is happening at Disney or other corporations, except abstractly and without an understanding of the human cost.

The moderators are not here to improve the conversation. They are not here to contribute. They do not have interesting things to say. They are here to remove things and people which offend them.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by cinbun8 »

MrGilbert wrote: post #31

Looks like the original tweet got deleted, but archive.org got us covered: https://web.archive.org/web/20200409030935/https://twitter.c...

That link is dead too. Does archive.org update its archive based on deleted content?

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by blaser-waffle »

op03 wrote: post #65
rossjudson wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but it certainly means that Disney's employees should understand exactly how much they matter to the company. There's a junior MBA somewhere bumping their career by destroying others'.

Its not destroyed. You still have Disney on your resume and you didn't get fired for anything dumb you did. Having been through this stuff a couple times and heard these reactions before, I can tell you most people, esp those from blue chips, get picked up fast. Covid changes things yes, but the system is not static. Response and handling of it will get better and better week by week as people learn and adapt. Compan…

> Covid changes things yes, but the system is not static

Yes, it is. People literally cannot leave their houses. There are certainty some online/100% remote jobs that will hire you via webcam, but most don't. And I'm saying that as a guy who has been 100% remote for the past 5+ years now. All, every single one, of my remote gigs had me show up and interview in person. That's just not an option for huge swaths of the US, and may not be for months yet.

> Response and handling of it will get better and better week by week as people learn and adapt. Companies will restart work and hiring sooner or later. Look at S.Korea. They got hit by MERS. They learnt, evolved new plans and this time around were prepared.

They're predicting as high as 50% of the local businesses failing in my city by the end of summer, and I've heard similar doom and gloom about other parts of N. America. S. Korea is an outlier in most respects, and there is little reason to believe that the responses put out by other nations will be as effective. The UK lagged on their COVID response and now their PM is in the ICU. Sweden just isn't doing anything, and it looks like Trump is trying to cause a civil war in the US by stealing resources from the states.

The worse is yet to come, IMO, and these former Disney workers are right to curse their employer.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by bhupy »

labster wrote: post #27
nsxwolf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a law called COBRA that lets you continue your employers coverage for up to 18 months I think it is. You have to pay the entire premium including the portion your employer paid so the price tag is usually a shock.

So on Friday you have good health coverage, and then you get a recorded message on Zoom from your now former job. Now you have to pay for COBRA but you only have enough money reserves for two months of housing/food. So you apply for MediCal. Nope, you have too much money. So the reasonable thing to do is to take no health insurance. Then, you get the coronavirus. Pretty bad. You’re young, so you live through it, but…

> Now you have to pay for COBRA but you only have enough money reserves for two months of housing/food.

Upon passage of the CARES act, everyone that loses their job due to COVID is eligible for UI, and the federal UI is now $600/week, on top of the existing state UI. So in the state of California, an ex-Disney employee would receive $4200/month[1].

If you're single, $4200/month in California will more than pay for rent + health insurance + food.

If you're a working couple, together you will receive $8400/month.

[1] https://imgur.com/a/AifRmdD

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by dreamcompiler »

fnord123 wrote: post #9

Off topic: I used to love lemondoor's blog when I was into lisp.

Lemonodor once wrote a clone of Lucene in Common Lisp that he called Montezuma. It was based on the Ruby port [1]. Lucene itself is written in Java, but its original research version was prototyped in...Lisp. I learned a lot reading John's blog.

[1] https://github.com/skypher/montezuma/blob/master/README.txt

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by MrGilbert »

cinbun8 wrote: post #74
MrGilbert wrote: post #31

Looks like the original tweet got deleted, but archive.org got us covered: https://web.archive.org/web/20200409030935/https://twitter.c...

That link is dead too. Does archive.org update its archive based on deleted content?

Mhm... I don't think so, that would be counter-intuitive.

I guess someone wants to get rid of this tweet thoroughly.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Post by yencabulator »

MrGilbert wrote: post #78
cinbun8 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link is dead too. Does archive.org update its archive based on deleted content?

Mhm... I don't think so, that would be counter-intuitive. I guess someone wants to get rid of this tweet thoroughly.

I want to guess that someone begins with a D and rhymes with Sidney.
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