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“I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

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Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#51
post #8

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So yeah people totally lose their health care when they lose their job. Typically it runs through the month and then you’re on your own. You can by law keep buying the same plan at full price (employers typically pay between 50-80 and sometimes up to 100% of the premium). However, when you get sick that rate doesn’t go up, so there’s no incentive from your employers standpoint to fire you when sick. Because of the “l…

"However, when you get sick that rate doesn’t go up, so there’s no incentive from your employers standpoint to fire you when sick." Sorry but that's just wrong. Most large employers and even many smaller shops "self-insure" meaning they are footing the bill. Your health insurance company is just a front/conduit/paper pusher. In those cases, it is your employer who is ultimately deciding your prescription is not in th…

In that case, maybe self-insuring needs to be made completely illegal, given the horrible incentives it creates.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#52
post #27
post #7

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We have a law called COBRA that lets you continue your employers coverage for up to 18 months I think it is. You have to pay the entire premium including the portion your employer paid so the price tag is usually a shock.

So on Friday you have good health coverage, and then you get a recorded message on Zoom from your now former job. Now you have to pay for COBRA but you only have enough money reserves for two months of housing/food. So you apply for MediCal. Nope, you have too much money. So the reasonable thing to do is to take no health insurance. Then, you get the coronavirus. Pretty bad. You’re young, so you live through it, but…

I would recommend to anyone to do what it takes to pay for the COBRA. You have 60 days from the last day of your coverage to elect it, and a grace period of 45 days after that to make a payment. If you manage to find another job with benefits before then, and don’t need to make any insurance claims, you can drop the whole thing and not pay.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#53
post #27
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a law called COBRA that lets you continue your employers coverage for up to 18 months I think it is. You have to pay the entire premium including the portion your employer paid so the price tag is usually a shock.

So on Friday you have good health coverage, and then you get a recorded message on Zoom from your now former job. Now you have to pay for COBRA but you only have enough money reserves for two months of housing/food. So you apply for MediCal. Nope, you have too much money. So the reasonable thing to do is to take no health insurance. Then, you get the coronavirus. Pretty bad. You’re young, so you live through it, but…

So Chapter 7 won’t let you keep the house if it isn’t paid off?

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#55
post #33

Disney's net income in 2019 was 11.05 billion U.S. dollars, marking one of the highest figures to date.

There are extensive government programs to help that were recently passed. Obviously the programs probably won't pay the full salary of an engineer or tech employee, but there is help. > Any full-time or part-time worker who is furloughed, laid off or had their hours reduced due to the coronavirus is eligible for expanded unemployment benefits.

Thanks Justin. Do you manage your company like this too? When times are good, you take all the profit and when times are bad it's "fuck you" to the employee and go stand in government handout lines?

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#56
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So on Friday you have good health coverage, and then you get a recorded message on Zoom from your now former job. Now you have to pay for COBRA but you only have enough money reserves for two months of housing/food. So you apply for MediCal. Nope, you have too much money. So the reasonable thing to do is to take no health insurance. Then, you get the coronavirus. Pretty bad. You’re young, so you live through it, but…

If you lapse in payment in your inherited coverage from your previous workplace, and get a new plan, will they take a premium for any pre-existing conditions they deem you might have?

For the most part, insurers can't blackball you for pre-existing conditions under Obamacare.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#57
post #36

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Does it mean you have to distribute it to employees? It seems to me that even if Disney earns 100 times that, their employees should not get more than the market rate.

Agreed, if it causes the company to have severe financial distress or even possibly go bankrupt, hard decisions such as these have to be made. If the company goes under lots more jobs and wealth is lost.

Ah yes. Hard decisions about whether the new CEO will wipe his ass with that 11 billion, or use it as fuel for his fireplace. Decisions, decisions.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#58

From a pure cut-throat capitalist perspective, this seems like a stupid move. Teams like this are not easy to replace, and Disney has plenty of money.

Maybe Disney too got overrun by MBAs, and their optimization horizon shortened to "until next quarter"?

Look at this thread. More than just Disney is overrun by people gleefully watching others’ misery, and explaining to them how their family happens to be exactly the sort of ritual sacrifice their religion of money needs these days.

Re: “I, along with almost all of Disney Imagineering, am furloughed without pay”

#60
post #26

It is almost if the United States is a third world country by cutting off healthcare in a pandemic.

You've unfortunately been posting a lot of unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN. We ban accounts that do that, because not only is it not in the spirit of curious conversation, it kills that spirit. Would you please stop that and use HN as intended?

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