This is a great idea! But why it would be any faster than a vaccine. We already have vaccines, the slowness is testing them. Wouldn’t this method need just as much testing?
Because it is a natural virus. You don’t need approval from the FDA to be infected with a natural virus.
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Because it is natural. You don’t need permission from the FDA to catch a natural virus.
Aren’t a lot of vaccines just weakened versions of natural viruses? Insulin is natural, would not they require testing before it could be used to treat a new disease?
Yes insulin is natural, but it needs to be processed and purified via a lab process (if from pigs) or grown up in a vat of cells for the human form.
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Because it is a natural virus. You don’t need approval from the FDA to be infected with a natural virus.
Do you have a source? That seems pretty wild if true.
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Aren’t a lot of vaccines just weakened versions of natural viruses? Insulin is natural, would not they require testing before it could be used to treat a new disease?
Yes many (most) viral vaccines are weakened versions of natural viruses, but the weakened versions were created in the lab. Yes insulin is natural, but it needs to be processed and purified via a lab process (if from pigs) or grown up in a vat of cells for the human form.
It’s also sad we have to go to these Herculean lengths to bypass the slowness of the FDA.
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Do you have a source? That seems pretty wild if true.
Has the FDA given approval for any of the millions of people to be infected with the dangerous strains?
Edit. Don’t get me wrong. I’m on your side. I just want to figure out if it’s feasible.
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Yes many (most) viral vaccines are weakened versions of natural viruses, but the weakened versions were created in the lab. Yes insulin is natural, but it needs to be processed and purified via a lab process (if from pigs) or grown up in a vat of cells for the human form.
Wow that’s a huge loophole then. If true you might be on to something. That’s pretty cool. It’s also sad we have to go to these Herculean lengths to bypass the slowness of the FDA.
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Yes in an ideal world I should just be able to write to Bill and he will have the time to consider my proposal seriously. In the real world the only way to get the attention of someone like Bill is to have someone he takes seriously bring it to his attention. Hence the post here.
In the last AMA on Reddit he did provide information about the people to whom he listens. I am posting the link to the AMA again here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fksnbf/im_bill... Dr. Trevor Mundel[0], who leads the Gates Foundation’s global health work, and Dr. Niranjan Bose[1], Bill Gates' chief scientific adviser. [0] https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Who-We-Are/General-Informati... [1] https://ww…
Re: Ask HN: How to get Bill Gates's attention?
#78When we exterminate species of animals, microbes that inhabit them jump species. It's how they survive.
One of the things that fosters antibiotic resistance is that bacteria mutate at a higher rate in hostile environments.
Different people with different genetics react differently to the same things.
I am not trying to rain on your parade. I'm trying to take you seriously and share my thoughts. I'm sure we all want a solution.
I think we need to up our game on other things. I don't know how to get traction on that. We already know a lot of things that help and we are just not doing a very good job of getting everyone to understand and comply.
If we did, people might dismiss the success as "luck" anyway. Humans have a terrible track record of not knowing how to count the disasters that didn't happen but should have.
Best of luck. I see in comments someone forwarded it to the Gates Foundation. I would be happy to learn I'm wrong and this works.
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Sounds like these people would be much more likely to see a message and would be plenty capable of passing it on to Bill if they see merit in it.
Yes to get to someone like Bill will be a two jump exercise.
Re: Ask HN: How to get Bill Gates's attention?
#801- Create a website: http://IhaveaCOVIDsolution.com , On the website, outline your idea, why it would work, put a personal video of a story etc.. 2-Email the website to everyone who knows Bill. Track if he opens it for free with Email Tracking, Scheduling, Templates & Attachment Tracking. 3-If he doesn't open it, tweet it to him. 4-A week later, follow up on your email 5-Find where many of his followers (on Twitter) hang out, which hashtags do many use. Post your website and use that hashtag. Or, tweet each of them individually. 6-Find posts on Quora about Covid-19 solutions, post your idea (for free) and post your website. 7-A week later follow up again with Bill. Also, reach out to other Gates foundation Execs. Reach out to Melinda or Microsoft execs(ex-Msft friends also) and get ignored (will toughen you up). Maybe 1 of them will want a phone call. Find Bill's address, write him a hand-written letter and send the website URL as well.
At some point, he will either:
Answer, quick email from him. Best case a phone call. His publicist will say "Thanks, Bill will look at your ideas." You'll never hear from them again
Maybe he won't answer, but at some point you'll get someone to respond and perhaps become a client to your solution.