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Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

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Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#12

The article reads like a bad hit job it tries to paint facebooks position as bleak while ignore all its products have continued to experience amazing growth. It paints a picture of what the author want the world to be like rather than reality. One of the biggest examples is how they view regulation as a risk to Facebook while Facebooks views it as a guarantee of market dominance.

I can't speak to every point raised in the article, but at least the jealousy aspect doesn't seem so off-base if one looks at the recent re-branding of Whatsapp.

Whatsapp now has a giant "whatsapp by facebook" advert right on the loading page of the application. There was a quite funny article a while back how it led to school children deleting whatsapp because they thought facebook was "uncool" but didn't even know it was a product of the company.

I'd also caution about "arguments from growth", given that it's totally possible that given better decisions it might have grown even faster. Sort of like the medieval physician who argued that blood-letting worked because the patient recovered. It'd be better to address the substance of the article.

Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#13

The article reads like a bad hit job it tries to paint facebooks position as bleak while ignore all its products have continued to experience amazing growth. It paints a picture of what the author want the world to be like rather than reality. One of the biggest examples is how they view regulation as a risk to Facebook while Facebooks views it as a guarantee of market dominance.

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Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#14
As John Gruber writes after every single link to Bloomberg:

* Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October 2018 — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services. The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed by a single other publication (despite much effort to do so), and has been largely discredited by one of Bloomberg’s own sources. By all appearances “The Big Hack” was complete bullshit. Yet Bloomberg has issued no correction or retraction, and seemingly hopes we’ll all just forget about it. I say we do not just forget about it. Bloomberg’s institutional credibility is severely damaged, and everything they publish should be treated with skepticism until they retract the story or provide evidence that it was true.

Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#15

paywall

Bloomberg doesn't have a paywall if you disable Javascript.

And if you don't want to disable JS, every time you reach the article limit, in Chrome you can go to the Application tab in DevTools and "Clear site data".

Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#16

As John Gruber writes after every single link to Bloomberg: * Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October 2018 — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services. The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed…

Don't forget their "market moving bonuses" https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/the-bloomberg-m...

Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#17
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bloomberg doesn't have a paywall if you disable Javascript.

I usually just clear my cookies for this and NYT

Last I checked they use a service worker or local storage, so you have to clear all data, not just cookies. I didn't investigate in detail though.

Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#18

The article reads like a bad hit job it tries to paint facebooks position as bleak while ignore all its products have continued to experience amazing growth. It paints a picture of what the author want the world to be like rather than reality. One of the biggest examples is how they view regulation as a risk to Facebook while Facebooks views it as a guarantee of market dominance.

I can't speak to every point raised in the article, but at least the jealousy aspect doesn't seem so off-base if one looks at the recent re-branding of Whatsapp. Whatsapp now has a giant "whatsapp by facebook" advert right on the loading page of the application. There was a quite funny article a while back how it led to school children deleting whatsapp because they thought facebook was "uncool" but didn't even know…

More likely a decision made to strengthen Facebook's case to antitrust regulators. The "by facebook" branding suggests a deeper integration between different apps and therefore makes it seemingly harder to break up Facebook's app family.

Re: Zuckerberg’s Jealousy Held Back Instagram and Drove Off Founders

#20
post #16

As John Gruber writes after every single link to Bloomberg: * Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October 2018 — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services. The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed…

Don't forget their "market moving bonuses" https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/the-bloomberg-m...

If a story is found to be false and moves Bloomberg stock down, does that still qualify for a bonus?
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