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An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

#171

If you're going to tear down a competitor's product and shill your own you should probably be up front about it.

I think that if a blog shilling a company/product is hosted on said company's website, they're already sufficiently up-front about it.

i think the title is misleading. It says "Why you should stop using Google Analytics on your website" but it's content means "Why you should stop using Google Analytics on your website, and start using our software"

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Photoshop is the defacto-standard in image editing, yet clones which are free and copy the photoshop UI are rapidly catching up for a segment of the userbase, eg. photopea.com If someone set up a Scroogle Analoytics which had a simple code snippet, was free, and had near-identical looking dashboard, I'd use it.

While GA is free Photoshop has one of the most insanely bloated pricing approaches for casual usage - the fact it's handed out like candy to students (and various institutions allow this instead of familiarizing students with alternatives) is the only reason its kept such a dominant market position. If your boss asks you for some analytics about site usage the first thing searching the web will turn up is GA and you…

I use Photoshop alternatives because they're cheaper than maintaining a perpetual license/subscription, but Photoshop is the big gorilla because it is the best photo editing app in the industry today. Bar none. And that's what lets them get away with their pricing structure.

Nobody would pay for Photoshop if it didn't provide value.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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GA also has support from many third party libraries because of the popularity that you can just plug-in and get started with. e.g. https://github.com/react-ga/react-ga https://github.com/angulartics/angulartics2 https://github.com/MatteoGabriele/vue-gtag

Isn't GA itself a third-party JavaScript library that you can just plug-in and get started with? Why do you need framework specific libraries on top of that?

You don't need framework libraries. The point is, for many frameworks installing GA is just adding one file to your dependencies and entering your UA number. Installing a comparable tool that doesn't have a library involves marginally more friction.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Also, unlike many smaller analytics providers, Google Analytics doesn't have glaring CSRF vulnerabilities and doesn't have creepy features that let you spy on individual users (no idea if this applies to Plausible or not).

Did you mean XSS?

I'm specifically talking about CSRF as I've found that to be quite widespread and some analytics providers have had flaws that can lead to your account being deleted or stats sent to someone else's email address, etc. I don't know if there's a similar problem with XSS, but I trust Google's security practices more than most other companies.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Plausible was hovering less than 50 users on its own web site, and I wouldn't risk sending my visitors to this relatively new web service either. Analytics requires a lot of trust to not screw you up. It's a third party script that you add in pretty much every page of your web site. I'm still looking for a provider that I can tame with CSP rules, and comes with the most minimal things I need to know. A pixel tracker…

You can self host your own analytics, like matomo. [0]

[0]: https://matomo.org/

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

#177

The correct proposition instead would be to stop analytics on your website, period. There's many sites that benefit greatly from the insight, but I'd argue they're a minority. Your personal blog doesn't need analytics. Let's be honest, for many people, analytics is just a way to feed their ego — my ramblings reached 100 people, so you could say I'm kind of a big deal. Google is, obviously, very well aware of this tar…

For personal projects, what about basic usage data from something server-side like nginx logs?

No JS, no tracking, just basic analytics. Even if it's only a personal blog, knowing what people care about is helpful

If anyone has recommendations for something self-hosted like this, I'm in the market :)

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

#178

The correct proposition instead would be to stop analytics on your website, period. There's many sites that benefit greatly from the insight, but I'd argue they're a minority. Your personal blog doesn't need analytics. Let's be honest, for many people, analytics is just a way to feed their ego — my ramblings reached 100 people, so you could say I'm kind of a big deal. Google is, obviously, very well aware of this tar…

Analytics can absolutely be useful for your personal blog / website. Imagine you're an academic on the postdoctoral fellow / tenure track job market and you want to both numbers and see locations of where your hits are coming from, google analytics can help. For universities the ISP entry is often "X university" which makes things even clear than the broad Geo category of which city the hit comes from. This can be ve…

> For universities the ISP entry is often "X university"

Actually Google killed that report earlier this year. It's kind of a big deal, a lot of companies were using ISP dimension to distinguish external vs employee traffic.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

#179

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GA also has support from many third party libraries because of the popularity that you can just plug-in and get started with. e.g. https://github.com/react-ga/react-ga https://github.com/angulartics/angulartics2 https://github.com/MatteoGabriele/vue-gtag

Isn't GA itself a third-party JavaScript library that you can just plug-in and get started with? Why do you need framework specific libraries on top of that?

To handle single page sites or more specific actions

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

#180

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I’ve never heard of Plausible either but the instant I browsed to the article I suspected they were a competitor. I skimmed the table of contents and saw the last item was recommending a product with the same name as the website, and my suspicion was confirmed. They’re perfectly up front and obvious about it, not hiding anything.

>They’re perfectly up front and obvious about it, not hiding anything. Wtf, this is the opposite of "up front." You had to poke around and figure it out yourself based on a suspicion. Up front means that they just tell you, no figuring out required.

"Reading the link" isn't quite poking around, is it?
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