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An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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No idea if that's true or not regarding Google Analytics, but you can opt out of all data sharing and I imagine Google would be in a lot of trouble if they didn't honour that.

There is no comprehensive opt out to Google tracking. If you disagree, show me the button that opts out of doubleclick (and all Google subsidiaries and data sharing partners) targeting ads at my home IP address, cell phone, car, etc.

https://adssettings.google.com/

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Yes! I've just removed GA from one of my pet projects (shameless plug https://golang.cafe ) - And started using Cloudflare NS https://www.cloudflare.com/dns/ . Now I get users/analytics reports at DNS level. No bloated JS trackers, no privacy policies and weird stuff and I can track visits even when adblockers are enabled. This would definitely be overestimated as bots would be counted in but it seems pretty accurate…

How does Cloudflare NS deal with caching resolvers?

It tells you even percentage and absolute number of cached dns queries. Cloudflare is dope!

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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With any website it's important to know how many visitors it is receiving. In the context of a blog knowing you're getting a lot of traffic can motivate you to publish more content and knowing more about your visitors can also feed into what sort of content you publish. You could look at your server logs, of course, but analytics is easier to set up and gives you higher quality data than something like AWStats. Since…

Or you can have comments or some social platform for interacting with users, which is more rewarding, direct, and useful for future direction or content suggestions.

But also requires things like moderation, especially if your topic of choice is remotely controversial. It also gives you individual data points rather than an overall picture, skewing towards people with strong opinions.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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That industry has existed everywhere for most of civilization. Perhaps even the second oldest profession.

Hmm is this a fair assessment? Seems like most consider modern advertising to originate in the late 1800s. At the very least you'd say there was an inflection point sometime after the printing press, no?

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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I've done something similar to this that has worked for me without a lot of effort besides the first time setup. I use Fathom which is open-source and available to use on any hosting service. I use it with DigitalOcean so it's $5/mo and I get to run it on as many websites I have. Might not be very helpful in your case but I'd recommend thinking about using a simpler setup than SQS Queue + Lambda, if that works for yo…

I had to scroll a bit more than this thread would prefer to find the pricing. It says "get started for free" but the lowest pricing tier is $14.00/mo. Looks like "free" is only the 7 day trial.

They have a version "Fathom lite" which is nowhere mentioned on their site (anymore?). You can get it from Github though:

https://github.com/usefathom/fathom

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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If you're going to tear down a competitor's product and shill your own you should probably be up front about it.

Seems like a fair number of articles on HN lately are of this vein. A pitch veiled as a criticism of another product. I know a lot of people agree with the premise of ditching Google Analytics but don't necessarily want to read a biased pitch piece about it.

>lately

This has been the case as long as I've been here and probably long before.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Thanks. I didn't check the homepage and looked for pricing info in the navigation links, felt it was needlessly difficult. Pricing should be easy to locate from every page for a product like this.

Discovering that users are having difficulty finding pricing information... might be one useful piece of data you could garner with a good analytics tool. Also I just checked out the pricing's placement and that is utterly terrible UI - the site uses light greyshade striping in the background for difference sections and then has the pricing block proceeded by a very dark background block with no information immediate…

Genuine question, how would you find that users are struggling to find pricing using an analytics tool? How would you set that up / what would you look for to identify that? Something like scrolling around / back and forth implying they're struggling to find data or something?

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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Alas, I don’t control my server, but if I did I would say you might not even need this. If you’re using Google Analytics right now it’s probably better than that, though.

I too don't controll my server, but it turned out that my hosting provider (one.com) has pretty nice access analytics, e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶s̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶.̶c̶o̶m̶'̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶r̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶D̶N̶S̶ ̶r̶e̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶h̶e̶a̶p̶ ̶V̶P̶S̶ (Edit:Nope it does not, how could it). When I discovered this I dropped GA for most of my projects. I have one remaining project t…

I use GitHub Pages.

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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It sounds like a nice product, but sadly it's not exactly why GA is so popular (being a 'nice' product, that is). It is popular, because it's free, relatively easy to implement on any website, requires no self-hosting and powerful, once running. I've checked your website for pricing, but not only there's no word about free tiers, but there isn't even anything on the pricing at all. So, when it comes to majority of GA…

Also, unlike many smaller analytics providers, Google Analytics doesn't have glaring CSRF vulnerabilities and doesn't have creepy features that let you spy on individual users (no idea if this applies to Plausible or not).

Did you mean XSS?

Re: An alternative to using Google Analytics on your website

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There is no comprehensive opt out to Google tracking. If you disagree, show me the button that opts out of doubleclick (and all Google subsidiaries and data sharing partners) targeting ads at my home IP address, cell phone, car, etc.

https://adssettings.google.com/

Opting out of targeted ads is NOT the same as opting out of tracking.
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