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Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by na85 »

wayoutthere wrote: post #7
close04 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not having to eat your own dog food helps a lot too... You lose your privacy for his benefit, not the other way around.

Yeah, in the modern world privacy is a luxury. It's actually pretty damn hard to find information about many technology executives outside of their LinkedIn profile; but many lower-income jobs practically require an active social media presence.

Exactly correct. Corporations like Google and Facebook successfully turned privacy into a luxury good available only to the oligarch class. See for example Zuckerberg buying all the mansions around his, to protect his privacy, with the money he made proselytizing "privacy is dead" and selling us out to advertisers.

Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by Nicksil »

0xff00ffee wrote: post #8
wayoutthere wrote: post #5

I think this assumes people don't have a choice about being "extremely online". As someone who quite literally grew up on the Internet in the early 90s (before that was common), I have pulled back my engagement significantly in the last 5 years. I'm not on social media at all. And you know what? Other than a few Facebook Groups, I realized I'm not missing much. I rather enjoy living life offline; I'm not obsessed wit…

> I'm not on social media at all. What's HN then?

HN is an Internet forum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum

Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by Pedrit0 »

Pedrit0 wrote: post #3

Well, Google may be an anomaly too...

Oh let me be more explicit: Google's destiny is deeply intricated with geopolitics, and as several US-based giants it will have its future indexed on the US destiny. And the US are declining at the speed of light. China has built its own tech powerhouse and it is dwarfing the american digital universe. Moreover Trump's tech blocade on China is just prompting them to develop alternatives on every possible hardware and software product and therefore China is becoming the biggest threat to US Big tech companies. Europe can (and will) go on make easy money taxing Google and other 'privacy predating' companies because they cannot afford the luxury to quit the biggest trade bloc in the world... ANd it is a good strategy to weaken the US. If you think that Google will remain what is is now, get your head off the SV tech blogs and read a bit about geopolitics. So yeah, I think that Google is anomaly. And most anomalies tend to disappear...

Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by Avamander »

nashashmi wrote: post #2

Maybe there should be three terms acknowledged in the study of privacy: Public Obscure Private For the longest time we have interpreted obscurity as privacy. Such as what your house looks like. Or how many people know of your legal immigration status. There are very few pieces of information that are truly private, like social security number, health records (known only by Healthcare providers), and the actions you d…

> There are very few pieces of information that are truly private, like social security number

Most countries don't have such a number with such high value.

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Post by saagarjha »

nashashmi wrote: post #2

Maybe there should be three terms acknowledged in the study of privacy: Public Obscure Private For the longest time we have interpreted obscurity as privacy. Such as what your house looks like. Or how many people know of your legal immigration status. There are very few pieces of information that are truly private, like social security number, health records (known only by Healthcare providers), and the actions you d…

> There are very few pieces of information that are truly private, like social security number, health records (known only by Healthcare providers)

Knowing the security of the organizations that handle these, I don’t really think so.

Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by sixstringtheory »

wayoutthere wrote: post #7
close04 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not having to eat your own dog food helps a lot too... You lose your privacy for his benefit, not the other way around.

Yeah, in the modern world privacy is a luxury. It's actually pretty damn hard to find information about many technology executives outside of their LinkedIn profile; but many lower-income jobs practically require an active social media presence.

I’m interested in which jobs you speak of. Surely nobody cares whether or not you have aFB profile when deciding to hire you as a grocery stocker or cashier...

Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by saagarjha »

0xff00ffee wrote: post #8
wayoutthere wrote: post #5

I think this assumes people don't have a choice about being "extremely online". As someone who quite literally grew up on the Internet in the early 90s (before that was common), I have pulled back my engagement significantly in the last 5 years. I'm not on social media at all. And you know what? Other than a few Facebook Groups, I realized I'm not missing much. I rather enjoy living life offline; I'm not obsessed wit…

> I'm not on social media at all. What's HN then?

Social media like the rest of them, except you can be pseudonymous here.

Re: Google's Chief Internet Evangelist: 'privacy may be an anomaly' (2013)

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Post by sixstringtheory »

Nicksil wrote: post #12
0xff00ffee wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not on social media at all. What's HN then?

HN is an Internet forum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum

Which is one kind of medium for socially interacting.
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