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Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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I avoid them because of their known racist and sexist employee segregation.

Wow. I had no idea. https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/workers-fight-back...

Seems like only one side of the story from a very non-balanced source with an agenda. I would take this with a grain of salt.

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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Also beware of phony Magento sites that don't have actual products, but are just trying to get CCs, PayPal or crypto payments.

How does that work? I’ve seen a lot of copy paste webshops of formerly retired domains. They obviously look quickly hacked together (allthough looking professional enough to the untrained eye)

I would bet scraping from Amazon, reducing prices randomly from 20-50%, and being sure search engines and aggregators see it, i.e., Google/Google Shopping.

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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Wow. I had no idea. https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/workers-fight-back...

Seems like only one side of the story from a very non-balanced source with an agenda. I would take this with a grain of salt.

It is a fact that they were sued by the Department of Labor over it.

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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Return it to who? If you saw someone drop it, sure. If you know the owner of the hundred dollar bill, sure. But otherwise? I think you just have an odd definition of theft. From Merriam Webster: 1. a : the act of stealing specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it 1. b : an unlawful taking (as by embezzlement or burglary) of property 2 : a sto…

>If you saw someone drop it, sure. If you know the owner of the hundred dollar bill, sure. But otherwise? Presumably the owner would retrace their steps and try to find what was lost. Most people would do this for a hundred dollars, but you can also imagine a child doing it for a quarter. Is it theft if you say you haven't seen it? How about if you never run into the person but intended to say you haven't seen it? At…

I think you're just taking a word that already has a definition and redefining it. Or at least greatly stretching the definition.

And assuming theft unless otherwise proven? That's weird to me too, especially combined with your follow up of limiting instantaneous judgement. How on earth is assuming someone committed theft limiting judgement?

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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EU here, things seem pretty good here. * I ordered 20kg of oranges from sicily, no shipping costs, arrived in 2days * Coffee, same thing * a bass guitar, same * groceries are delivered in a day from local shops * for electronics i bought from many shops, usually takes ~1week. still OK for a washing machine or those big items ...seems that "the infrastructure" that amazon required for ups/dhl/* are being used by any o…

Totally OT but where did you order the oranges from? I am in need of a few kg for juicing and it's expensive from the local grocery delivery folks around me...

from www.aranciadoc.com

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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>If you saw someone drop it, sure. If you know the owner of the hundred dollar bill, sure. But otherwise? Presumably the owner would retrace their steps and try to find what was lost. Most people would do this for a hundred dollars, but you can also imagine a child doing it for a quarter. Is it theft if you say you haven't seen it? How about if you never run into the person but intended to say you haven't seen it? At…

I think you're just taking a word that already has a definition and redefining it. Or at least greatly stretching the definition. And assuming theft unless otherwise proven? That's weird to me too, especially combined with your follow up of limiting instantaneous judgement. How on earth is assuming someone committed theft limiting judgement?

>think you're just taking a word that already has a definition and redefining it.

Everybody does that all of the time, your definition for words are based on your own experiences.

>And assuming theft unless otherwise proven?

No, assuming theft. More things are called theft.

>How on earth is assuming someone committed theft limiting judgement?

You still think that a thief is a bad person. I assume basically everyone has committed theft, so withhold judgment until I have more information.

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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I think you're just taking a word that already has a definition and redefining it. Or at least greatly stretching the definition. And assuming theft unless otherwise proven? That's weird to me too, especially combined with your follow up of limiting instantaneous judgement. How on earth is assuming someone committed theft limiting judgement?

>think you're just taking a word that already has a definition and redefining it. Everybody does that all of the time, your definition for words are based on your own experiences. >And assuming theft unless otherwise proven? No, assuming theft. More things are called theft. >How on earth is assuming someone committed theft limiting judgement? You still think that a thief is a bad person. I assume basically everyone h…

There are common definitions of what words mean. If the meaning of words become arbitrary then we lose the ability to communicate effectively.

An action was taken, e.g. picking up a quarter off the side walk. There is no need to put another label on it randomly, just call it what it is, picking up a quarter. By using a word that already has a commonly accepted meaning, and a negative one at that, and associate it with an innocent action you're already labeling it in a negative way for everyone else. Everyone (or at least majority of other people) thinks a thief is a bad person. If only you don't think so and label someone else doing nothing bad a thief, then you're labeling someone a bad person.

It's like me calling you a rapist. But I don't mean rapist in the typical way, I just mean anyone that has sex. So to me a rapist is not a bad person and I'll withhold judgement until I have more information. So I can just go around calling you a rapist right?

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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post #487

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>think you're just taking a word that already has a definition and redefining it. Everybody does that all of the time, your definition for words are based on your own experiences. >And assuming theft unless otherwise proven? No, assuming theft. More things are called theft. >How on earth is assuming someone committed theft limiting judgement? You still think that a thief is a bad person. I assume basically everyone h…

There are common definitions of what words mean. If the meaning of words become arbitrary then we lose the ability to communicate effectively. An action was taken, e.g. picking up a quarter off the side walk. There is no need to put another label on it randomly, just call it what it is, picking up a quarter. By using a word that already has a commonly accepted meaning, and a negative one at that, and associate it wit…

>There are common definitions of what words mean.

What are they? People assume their definition is common, but everything is much less clear than that. This causes frequent disagreements, and it's best to get more information.

>There is no need to put another label on it randomly, just call it what it is, picking up a quarter.

There is no need for me to label the action at all unless I'm in a position to explain what I mean. My position on the action is primarily private. Changing the definition is more useful in the other direction, when you call someone a thief I don't assume I have any idea what they did or what kind of person that makes them.

>Everyone (or at least majority of other people) thinks a thief is a bad person.

Using such labels to judge an entire persons worth is ridiculous in a number of ways. There are too many ways that both of us would consider innocent that can get you labeled a thief. I was almost booked for stealing $40 of gas after realizing I lost my wallet after filling the tank. Am I a bad person because of that?

>So I can just go around calling you a rapist right?

This started as me labeling an action as theft. If I walked around blindly calling people thieves I would expect the misunderstanding to cause problems for me.

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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post #398

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I never get why there is not a department in charge of checking orders that are obviously stuck before they become a support issue.

Because that costs money?

As does dealing with this as a customer service issue. I would argue that for most companies catching this internally costs far less than waiting to handle an annoyed customer.

Re: Amazon Isn’t the Only Shop Online

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I was always shocked by McMaster-Carr's delivery speed. I felt like the parts would arrive as quickly as I could have conceivably picked them up. This was 10 years ago now, so sort of like Amazon Prime before it became ubiquitous, but for materials and tools. However McMaster was and remains much better organized and much better spec-ed.

That's because they already have to delivery that fast for car repair shops. Fast delivery has never been an extra for them, it's always been the core product. What's interesting is that considering the existing logistics, none of these guys though of expanding into other ecommerce earlier. One of them could have been Amazon...

I'm glad they didn't to be honest. It would have diluted their existing product.
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