Where do I buy this? Seems a nice gift for apple fans (I just hope it doesn't cost like a Mac Pro).
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#602The simplicity of this is amazing, particularly the forehead band. Exact dimensions would be nice to copy this.
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#604Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated and now your fingers are contaminated. My understanding is that that's a misunderstanding (one that I was under as well). For people who aren't sick, the worry is that your hands get contaminated (much more common, from surface contact), and then you touch your mask and transfer to the mask, and eventually it works its way in since these aren't N95s. i.e. it ends…
Yes, you're right. That first point was about the DIY cotton masks, not fluid resistant surgical masks.
Right, but even with a cotton mask the worry is hand-to-mask, not the other way around.
When you're out in the world, the potential concentration of viruses will generally be much greater on your hands than on the outside of your mask.
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So this is likely a dumb idea, but if things got truly desperate I wonder if a snorkel mask would be a decent improvised protection. Your eyes and nose would be completely covered and your mouth is getting air from a direction/location that is unlikely to be in the "line of fire" from someone coughing or sneezing.
But if you have to breathe in infected air, doing so with your nose is far better than your mouth, since your nasal cavity has thicker membranes and a lot of mucus and hairs to catch particles, whereas through your mouth the particles are going straight into your lungs. In fact, that effect might be so significant evolutionationary that it is the reason we have a seperate nose and mouth, rather than combining the two…
A nose lets you breathe while you eat.
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During a wasted youth I poured over hundreds of The Hardy Boys Casefiles, where they'd receive and recover from a traumatic brain injury 3-5 nights a week (getting "knocked out"). Thanks to your comment I now know the other nights, where they were not rendered unconscious by blunt trauma, but rather through a rag of chloroform, they were probably inhaling phosgene too. Those boys were sure putting their futures at ri…
https://xkcd.com/1468/ "Worrying"
Can you explain the chest wound on your right side part?
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I don't think they are suggesting using it. They just state it's what they tested the materials to be compatible with "It has been evaluated to be compatible with the following chemicals:" Since this is going to medical professionals they should already know how to sterilize face shields and the like.
Sterilisation is done in an autoclave. Not with any of those things listed. The person you replied to is correct. The page is misleading. Source: I'm a doctor.
Not a doctor but it was quite clear to me reading the page that Apple was just listing the various cleaning solutions that they know won't damage the shield. I'm sure for legal reasons they won't dare tell doctors how to sterilize medical equipment.
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#608Besides being Apple's CEO, Tim Cook is also possibly the best supply chain guy on the planet (that's why he became Apple's CEO). I was hoping he would get involved with pandemic supply chain issues, and now he has.
It's quite nice to see some of the most talented minds in the tech private sector work towards solving our medical needs, I know it will end with the pandemic but part of me hopes it doesn't. The talent that's being monopolized at companies like Apple and Tesla (making ventilators right now) could do a lot of good for healthcare to everyone's benefit.
To be clear, I'm not talking about Cook or Elon, but the genius engineers they've cultivated to work for them.
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#609The Czech 3D Printer company Prusa has been on it for a while: https://www.prusa3d.com/covid19/ and they have been open-sourcing the design. You can print it on a 3D printer. Based on that design (and others) makers in Germany have started organizing, so that people can either request shields or supply shields. Organized on Slack and into local distribution hubs. We hace started sharing supplies and even got discount…
What is the point of 3d printing something that clearly needs to be mass-produced in great quantities? Maybe it "feels good", but it's just too slow. I'm honestly not sure why people don't just use plastic food wrap as a cheap improvised alternative for face shields. It's lightweight, readily available, disposable, fits over any attire and does not restrict visibility.
There are a lot of 3d printers out in the world
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I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. Ideally, they'd be cheap enough for municipalities to buy and distribute.
> I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. This burst of PPE being produced in mass quantities are and were never meant to go in the hands of the general public (i.e., non healthcare workers), though. The general public does not need to be walking around with a full face shield, that’ll be a waste of materials, time and money, unfortunately.
Yes. In January and February, we were "meant to" all keep traveling, spending, going to conferences, and parades. I'm not sure how a passive "meant to" helps. And we were all "meant to" not wear face masks, until just now.
These things are common sense. If you don't believe a face shield will help, why bother sneezing in your elbow?
We have three modes of potential transmission:
1) Large droplets, where face shields increase the effective distance from others. 2) Contact, where faceshield prevent you from accidentally touching your face. 3) Aerosol, where faceshields don't do a thing.
But reducing 2 out of 3 modes of transmission for a buck or two makes complete sense.