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Re: Show HN: Wikipedia over DNS

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Post by 3xblah »

geocrasher wrote: post #12

A while back I showed how you could drop data into a server log file, and jokingly called it CurlyTP. I have thought many times about embedding a website directly into DNS. https://miscdotgeek.com/curlytp-every-web-server-is-a-dead-d... Anybody up for the challenge? With some scripting you could do a dig on a TXT record, parse it, and display it right in a web page.

For some reasons I always had the idea of using HTTP headers and server logs to pass data. It can, e.g., be an alternative way of passing request/query input to a server, instead of using URLs or HTML forms. The server can read filtered input from a log file stored on RAM disk.

I did the TXT record as HTML idea many years ago by modifying djb's dnstxt to output valid HTTP header. The idea was to use tinydns and dnscache as a "back-end" database to store millions of tiny "webpages".

A true Rube Golberg machine.

Re: Show HN: Wikipedia over DNS

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Post by Symbiote »

onionisafruit wrote: post #24
shepherdjerred wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

finally my lisp class has aided me in a real-life scenario

I never had a lisp class, so I'm sitting here wondering why there is one single quote.

I'm glad my functional programming classes used Haskell instead:

  Hugs> reverse ["Wikipedia", "over", "DNS"]
  ["DNS","over","Wikipedia"]

Re: Show HN: Wikipedia over DNS

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Post by adtac »

askmike wrote: post #22

Great start, but plain text in 2020? I propose we design a markup language so this can be parsed. How about DTML? And maybe some styling rules as well, we can call it DSS. And we can't forget a basic scripting language called DJS. I'll start working on the parser, we can call it a drowser.

I'll contribute only if it allows third party cookies and all kinds of tracking

Re: Show HN: Wikipedia over DNS

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Post by hising »

askmike wrote: post #22

Great start, but plain text in 2020? I propose we design a markup language so this can be parsed. How about DTML? And maybe some styling rules as well, we can call it DSS. And we can't forget a basic scripting language called DJS. I'll start working on the parser, we can call it a drowser.

I'll have to say that DTML seems to be a mess and missing the point and suggest we start working on XDTML.

Re: Show HN: Wikipedia over DNS

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Post by hising »

adtac wrote: post #36
askmike wrote: post #22

Great start, but plain text in 2020? I propose we design a markup language so this can be parsed. How about DTML? And maybe some styling rules as well, we can call it DSS. And we can't forget a basic scripting language called DJS. I'll start working on the parser, we can call it a drowser.

I'll contribute only if it allows third party cookies and all kinds of tracking

How do we approach embedding of proprietary content formats? We need some DDRM right?

Re: Show HN: Wikipedia over DNS

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Post by k__ »

mycall wrote: post #16
k__ wrote: post #2

I love those! The most impressive one I saw, was IP over DNS.

That's well known in exfiltration botnets.

I read about it years ago. Someone used a free Microsoft internet connection to activate their Windows.

The connection only allowed access to MS activation servers, but also DNS.

The DNS would resolve any domain, even the ones that don't belonged to MS, so they could use it to get data out.

I told this story to a few people in my time, all working in IT, and all thought I was bullshitting them, like I was some crazy conspiracy theorist.

And now I'm reading that this is a well known technique and there are even libraries doing this.

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