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Why do you use words like "Unix pipes" when you don't know what they mean?
I don't even know what he means. Is he talking about | or BSD sockets? It's a mystery.
You won't find FSF on Facebook
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Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
#22"Because so many sites — including TIME — use Facebook's user-tracking "Like" button, Zuckerberg is able to collect information about people who aren't even users of his site" I thought you had to have a facebook account to "like" something, either on facebook itself or sites with the FB "like" link. Anyone know otherwise? edit: Just logged out of FB, opened a random Time article ( http://www.time.com/time/world/arti…
The "Like" button infrastructure (images, JavaScript) is loaded from Facebook's servers via a cross-domain request. Those servers can theoretically use cookies or IP addresses in conjunction with referrers to do tracking even without clicking Like, for both authenticated and unauthenticated users.
Some content is loaded off of their CDN, which I highly doubt is doing any tracking. The non-CDN pings are quite possibly not doing tracking, but it would be possible for Facebook to enable some tracking with most people never noticing.
Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
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Why do you use words like "Unix pipes" when you don't know what they mean?
Yeah, that was an attempt at sarcasm. Clearly it didn't work.
I was tying to imply that FSF types want all web apps to be accessible via the command line. Because who needs a fancy tabbed browser when you've got lynx?
Just for the record, I am well aware of what Unix pipes are and how to use them :)
Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
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Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
#26This article is a joke, it's something I would expect to find on some tech/news gossip website. Is this what FSF has become? > so many sites — including TIME — use Facebook's user-tracking "Like" button, Zuckerberg is able to collect information about people who aren't even users of his site. These are precedents which hurt our ability to freely connect with each other. He has created a network that is first and fore…
> Is this what FSF has become?
What do you mean? This is what FSF has always been like.
They're shockingly zealots in defending absolute gpl-style freedom over all your digital goods.
In all honesty I don't think a decentralized and "Free" facebook would work. The centralization is a feature that most people want; it's part of why it "just work" without you having to become a system (or a network) administrator.
Imagine:
Mom: How come I'm not receiving updates from your aunt anymore?
You: Well, you have to wait for $INSERT_TECHNICAL_TERM to propagate or something.
Mom: Do I have to enter her hash-thing again?
or worse:
Mom: I'm getting a lot of spam
You: You have to install morton anti-spam social-edition
Mom: It won't install.
You: sigh here I come.
It's like email, but much worse because it has way more features, and more ways for things to go wrong.
Plus, I think Mark Zuckerberg actually donated money to the Diaspora project.
Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
#27"Because so many sites — including TIME — use Facebook's user-tracking "Like" button, Zuckerberg is able to collect information about people who aren't even users of his site" I thought you had to have a facebook account to "like" something, either on facebook itself or sites with the FB "like" link. Anyone know otherwise? edit: Just logged out of FB, opened a random Time article ( http://www.time.com/time/world/arti…
The "Like" button infrastructure (images, JavaScript) is loaded from Facebook's servers via a cross-domain request. Those servers can theoretically use cookies or IP addresses in conjunction with referrers to do tracking even without clicking Like, for both authenticated and unauthenticated users. Some content is loaded off of their CDN, which I highly doubt is doing any tracking. The non-CDN pings are quite possibly…
Why wouldn't they be doing tracking? It seems like a big portion of the benefit to them in doing connect/like/etc. They do make their money selling ads, and they are seemingly hot to collect as much information as possible.
Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
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Why do you use words like "Unix pipes" when you don't know what they mean?
Yeah, that was an attempt at sarcasm. Clearly it didn't work. I was tying to imply that FSF types want all web apps to be accessible via the command line. Because who needs a fancy tabbed browser when you've got lynx? Just for the record, I am well aware of what Unix pipes are and how to use them :)
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Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you use words like "Unix pipes" when you don't know what they mean?
Yeah, that was an attempt at sarcasm. Clearly it didn't work. I was tying to imply that FSF types want all web apps to be accessible via the command line. Because who needs a fancy tabbed browser when you've got lynx? Just for the record, I am well aware of what Unix pipes are and how to use them :)
I don't entirely understand why you would spend your time trying to imply something about the FSF that is completely unrelated to what the FSF cares about. Could you fill me in, perhaps?
Re: You won't find FSF on Facebook
#30"Because so many sites — including TIME — use Facebook's user-tracking "Like" button, Zuckerberg is able to collect information about people who aren't even users of his site" I thought you had to have a facebook account to "like" something, either on facebook itself or sites with the FB "like" link. Anyone know otherwise? edit: Just logged out of FB, opened a random Time article ( http://www.time.com/time/world/arti…
The "Like" button infrastructure (images, JavaScript) is loaded from Facebook's servers via a cross-domain request. Those servers can theoretically use cookies or IP addresses in conjunction with referrers to do tracking even without clicking Like, for both authenticated and unauthenticated users. Some content is loaded off of their CDN, which I highly doubt is doing any tracking. The non-CDN pings are quite possibly…
So what if they are tracking? It's a separate issue to whether or not Facebook is controlling data / privacy too much. The same tracking issues with the Like button exist with any technology that is included on a huge number of websites, including advertising networks and Google Analytics (which expressly exists purely to track users!)
It is not inherently evil to track users. What you do with that information decides the morality of the situation. It seems to me that rolling this non-issue into the arguments against Facebook is actually harmful to the FSFs cause - why would they bother telling us about something trivial if they had real concerns to air?†
† I am not saying that there aren't real concerns, or that the FSF isn't airing them - just that airing a non-issue looks bad