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Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by Pewpewarrows »

marklabedz wrote: post #108
Pewpewarrows wrote: post #64

So... a dual core processor, two cameras, and... that's it? I was honestly expecting a LOT more considering how much competition they're getting this year. The new cover is neat, and it seems like they did a great job with the Movie and Garage Band apps, but the new iPad 2 is pretty underwhelming. Same old low resolution, no USB ports, and no desperately needed UI changes (I'm guessing iOS 5 wasn't ready yet and you'…

What competitors are shipping their tablets by March 11? Last I saw for RIM was April. Loaded question perhaps, but the "iPad killers" based on Honeycomb aren't out en masse yet.

This is a tablet that has to stand against the next entire year of competitors, at Apple's current release schedule. It's not even caught up to the Xoom in terms of hardware specs. Like the iPhone before it, it'll be tough competition against the wave of competitors that have faster release schedules.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by lwhi »

grhino wrote: post #117
lwhi wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps progress is overrated, when 'smart covers' are the most exciting feature.

I think when folks are saying the most exciting feature is the 'smart covers' they are using hyperbole. They haven't gotten a chance to touch and use the iPad 2 to determine speed improvements or OS improvements. If they already have an iPhone 4, they've already experienced the excited with the cameras, FaceTime, and even how thin it is. For everyone who is comparing this against the previous iPad and not the iPhone…

It's slightly obscene that a tablet that's so similar is being released so soon, obsoleting the first generation and encouraging a fair few people to upgrade for the sake of it.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

catch23 wrote: post #76
Pewpewarrows wrote: post #64

So... a dual core processor, two cameras, and... that's it? I was honestly expecting a LOT more considering how much competition they're getting this year. The new cover is neat, and it seems like they did a great job with the Movie and Garage Band apps, but the new iPad 2 is pretty underwhelming. Same old low resolution, no USB ports, and no desperately needed UI changes (I'm guessing iOS 5 wasn't ready yet and you'…

USB would add a huge power drain to the ipad. plus I'm not sure if most people would need it. What's wrong with bluetooth add-ons? Also, where are these cheap tablets running honeycomb? The only one I've seen available so far is the Xoom and that's $800 for their starter model.

In the UK the 32GB Xoom WiFi is the same price as the 32CB iPad WiFi. There was a leaked ad with a price that was the same as the 16GB iPad, but they officially announced it after the iPad 2 anouncement and raised it £50.

Of course that's not counting the $40 dollar HDMI dongle that's not needed for the Xoom.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by cpr »

masklinn wrote: post #84
fourspace wrote: post #10

Love the faster processor, HDMI out and better Safari performance. However, the main reason I'd upgrade my iPad would be for better resolution. Going from my iPhone 4, the iPad's screen just looks like crap. I primarily use the iPad for reading websites and Instapaper, and my guess is that I'm not alone.

> However, the main reason I'd upgrade my iPad would be for better resolution. There was never going to be a resolution upgrade this year. It's simply not feasible to push 2048x1536 on 9.7" screens right now. Next year maybe, but this year nope.

The rumor mills have the iPad 3 out later this year.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by kenjackson »

Pewpewarrows wrote: post #64

So... a dual core processor, two cameras, and... that's it? I was honestly expecting a LOT more considering how much competition they're getting this year. The new cover is neat, and it seems like they did a great job with the Movie and Garage Band apps, but the new iPad 2 is pretty underwhelming. Same old low resolution, no USB ports, and no desperately needed UI changes (I'm guessing iOS 5 wasn't ready yet and you'…

The only good thing still going for it is the price

Price + Quality. Plus the existing app store. Honeycomb has no apps and it seems really really buggy. Feels like Google rushed it out. iOS on the iPad feels polished and refined.

Two things need to happen for Android in 2011. Honeycomb needs to get stabilized. No more crashing or freezes. AND we need to see a $350 high quality tablet. Until then Apple will continue to clean up.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by rbarooah »

SandB0x wrote: post #105
rbarooah wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone seriously think they are deliberately holding back?

Well, they don't have any serious competition at the moment. Why push prices up or profit margins down with a high res screen when they can introduce one at a later (and cheaper) date?

Pushing prices up or margins down would make them less competitive. More importantly, they have to be able to manufacture with quality in increasingly gigantic volume. Sure they're making choices, but that's not the same as holding back.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by Anechoic »

dean wrote: post #124
achompas wrote: post #27

For me, the most exciting announcement has to be the line of Smart Covers. iPad covers aren't new, but this cover looks like it could solve the ergonomic problem of typing on your iPad or watching a movie/TV show while you're not sitting on a couch. It also protects your iPad's screen without adding bulk. EDIT: @marcoarment: "The Smart Cover might be the best feature of the iPad 2. I can't possibly express how much I…

"this cover looks like it could solve the ergonomic problem of typing on your iPad or watching a movie/TV show while you're not sitting on a couch." This is just another way of saying that tablets are a horrible form factor.

This is just another way of saying that tablets are a horrible form factor.

For some uses, certainly (hence the reason why my TC1100 spends 95% of it's life in laptop mode) but for other uses they're perfect. I see the stand as a way of saying "use a tablet for what it's good for and here's an option for being able to use it for less-than-optimal situations that still beats lugging another device around."

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by rbarooah »

Pewpewarrows wrote: post #131
marklabedz wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What competitors are shipping their tablets by March 11? Last I saw for RIM was April. Loaded question perhaps, but the "iPad killers" based on Honeycomb aren't out en masse yet.

This is a tablet that has to stand against the next entire year of competitors, at Apple's current release schedule. It's not even caught up to the Xoom in terms of hardware specs. Like the iPhone before it, it'll be tough competition against the wave of competitors that have faster release schedules.

What hardware specs? Battery life? Gyroscope? Graphics Performance?

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by arst »

lwhi wrote: post #132
grhino wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think when folks are saying the most exciting feature is the 'smart covers' they are using hyperbole. They haven't gotten a chance to touch and use the iPad 2 to determine speed improvements or OS improvements. If they already have an iPhone 4, they've already experienced the excited with the cameras, FaceTime, and even how thin it is. For everyone who is comparing this against the previous iPad and not the iPhone…

It's slightly obscene that a tablet that's so similar is being released so soon, obsoleting the first generation and encouraging a fair few people to upgrade for the sake of it.

Apple isn't forcing anyone to upgrade, original iPads aren't going to become useless on March 11.
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