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This will prepare them well for reality. Working adults, I am sure, will have their demands for the continuation of their livelihoods fully met by their employers, their landlords, and their mortgage providers.
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Exactly. Not to mention, any decent hiring manager that knows of this event, if it does occur, would be more suspect of any graduate of Yale (if they attended during the academic period in question) versus an equivalent Ivy. As the article mentioned, campus is the great equalizer for students of different backgrounds, so give each student a check for the full retail cost of a semester’s tuition and expenses, paid fro…
>if it does occur, would be more suspect of any graduate of Yale versus an equivalent Ivy Would they? Because this one thing might have happened one semester they would decide that individual is less qualified?
Good luck passing Calculus II if you were given a passing grade in Calculus I without actually learning the material. There are plenty of other courses that will run into the same problem if their prereqs aren't actually mastered.
>According to Eileen Huang ’22, requiring undergraduates — many burdened by sickness, hectic home lives or living thousands of miles away from the University — to devote the same level of attention and focus to their classes as they would in the Elm City seems unfair. I think there is merit to this concern. I don't know if passing automaticly is the right choice but experiences durring these events can be quite wide…
Sure there are some impacted, treat them individually (that's one of the things you pay Ivy league rates for, right?). Wheeling out a sob story of a handful of students in order to grant benefits to everyone just doesn't make sense. The school should be rigorous and push students as best it can.
That's how I viewed school, though, and I realize it is a minority opinion.
Good luck passing Calculus II if you were given a passing grade in Calculus I without actually learning the material. There are plenty of other courses that will run into the same problem if their prereqs aren't actually mastered.
My little brother is currently attending RIT and what they did is allow anyone to take any course Pass-Fail. It's not an automatic pass, but it does mean it won't screw over your GPA if events have impacted your ability to perform.
One of the downsides is that from the teacher's perspective, we are not allowed to know who is electing to take this option. So if 90% of our class is taking pass fail and aiming for a C, we still have to grade as usual and wonder: are these kids just not trying or are they not getting the material.
If they believe that the quality of education has reduced they should demand a refund, or they can drop the courses they can't handle so that they don't impact their GPA, and retake them once it's easier again.
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This. Education is not about passing the exams, it's about learning things. Although, I do get the rationale for wanting a free pass. Cynically speaking... An authentic Yale diploma must be worth a lot.
If education is about learning things (and not exams), then it follows the grade doesn’t matter. If a student feels confident they will have learned enough Calc I to take Calc II for the fall semester, then why not let them?
I've seen plenty of 18 year olds in graduate classes, and I've seen highly talented students simply read the books for the prerequisite math classes and do quite well.
ETH is continuing online and limiting the downside risk of the next set of exams. That seems like a better approach to me.
For those who don't know, both are top-level schools in Switzerland and Canada.
So how does this compare to Harvard, where students expect an automatic A even without Covid-19?
DS is not equivalent to an A. DS is insanely hard to get. The professor can only give like 1 or 2 students in the entire class DS so you basically have to be top gun to consistently get DS.