You win, RIM (An open letter to RIM's developer relations) • Hacker News Board

Re: You win, RIM (An open letter to RIM's developer relations)

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Post by GrandMasterBirt » Sun, Feb 27, 2011, 9:34 AM UTC

jammur wrote: post #11

btipling wrote: post #9

The complaints are: $200 price to develop with 10 app limit. Multiple registration forms. Requiring multiple downloads. Requiring to purchase vmware fusion. Installer that just copies an iso. Having to password protect the simulator. Bad documentation on how to load an app on the simulator. The comparative ease with which you can do these things with android and ios.

Now I feel like an idiot for spending an hour and half writing it, lol.

I feel that RIM is still missing the big picture. If RIM makes a phone/tablet that is 3x superior to the iPad and half the price, they'll still sell next to nothing.

Why? The answer is quite simple. Their software is shit. Their developer relations is shit. They are competing not vs hardware, but vs hardware + software.

They made great decisions too... lets ship the "Curve" model with such shit hardware and new software it was a downgrade from the previous top BB model (the one with side wheel). Old model = 3 seconds cold boot, new model = 3 minutes. The curve could not run any software that was remotely useful. It turned into a glorified email/phone device. The internet browsing sucked so bad I had no use for it. Not to mention that the hardware could barely handle the rendering.

So with good decisions like that, can you really expect any more out of RIM?

Re: You win, RIM (An open letter to RIM's developer relations)

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Post by danielodio » Sun, Feb 27, 2011, 5:26 PM UTC

Maybe it's moot - Android apps on Blackberrys soon, it seems.

Here's a commemorative new logo for RIM: http://go.danielodio.com/blackberry

DROdio

Re: You win, RIM (An open letter to RIM's developer relations)

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Post by ascendant » Wed, Mar 02, 2011, 7:51 PM UTC

jarek wrote: post #71

ascendant wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't done Android dev lately but I wrote a few apps in the 1.5/1.6 days and it was really nice once you got used to the tools.

I'm not sure that's a useful metric. Before you got used to the tools, could have you written a rant like the one in the article?

No, because the Android tools were exceptionally easy to install and use. The point of this rant is that RIM's tools are the opposite. Anyone can get used to the tools they're given to accomplish a task, the point here is how easy is it to accomplish said getting-used-to.

Re: You win, RIM (An open letter to RIM's developer relations)

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Post by MattRix » Sun, Mar 06, 2011, 3:36 PM UTC

rizer wrote: post #98

MattRix wrote: post #81

Ok, as an iPhone + iPad app developer (I created Trainyard), and as a Flash developer who has created a PlayBook app, and as a fellow Canadian, I feel I should weigh in on this. Despite the whiny tone and bizarre "Bueller?" moments, there were a bunch of valid points made. Yes, the amount of forms you have to fill out is ridiculous. Yes, the fact that the simulator .iso has an installer is crazy. With those things, I…

I contacted RIM regarding the whole notarised deal. Here's what they said: Me: As an independent developer I can afford neither to become incorporated, nor to get a notary signature. Could you explain the reasoning behind this? RIM: We require our vendors to be 18 years of age or older. This is why we require a notary form. Me: Is there not a way of proving that I'm over 18 other than spending £200 on a lawyer? I cou…

Just thought I should point out that RIM has now removed the notarization requirement entirely.

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