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Re: Apple Faceshield

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Post by blhack »

It’s interesting that this doesn’t include a top cover to prevent particulates from coming down from above the shield.

We are working with several major hospital groups and that is something they have asked for specifically. Actually they have requested we make modifications to the various open source designs to accommodate that.

The hospitals we are working with wouldn’t accept this design.

This is also why the NIH approved design incorporated a top cover: https://3dprint.nih.gov/discover/3dpx-013359

This was at great expense to efficiency of printing, but it was something that was required for approval.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Post by [deleted] »

cameldrv wrote: post #196
mike_d wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These face shields are intended as an alternative to eye protection that is in short supply. They do nothing for respiratory protection. Infection via the eyes is primarily a concern for people interacting closely with contagious patients (i.e. healthcare workers). To answer your seemingly underlying question: no, if Apple gave you a face shield it doesn't mean you get to go outside.

If no one is going outside, how are there any new cases? Lots of people are "essential workers", they go to the grocery store, the pharmacy, etc. Yes, HCW exposure is much greater than the average person, but your argument is essentially: Since you aren't driving in a Formula 1 race where the risk of crashing is higher, there's no need to wear a seatbelt. When we're seeing hundreds of deaths per year from COVID, I'll…

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Re: Apple Faceshield

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

pwthornton wrote: post #24
joncrane wrote: post #18

It would be great if they could make face shields that are dishwasher safe.

Is there any plastic that is actually dishwasher safe? I thought just about all of it started leaching when exposed to high temperatures.

"Dishwasher safe" means won't deform in scalding water and steam.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Post by mark-r »

adrianmonk wrote: post #123
sirtimbly wrote: post #95

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There goes my childhood entertainment.

At least they didn't warn against the dangers of holding a match in front of a can of WD-40.

Once I used some WD-40 sprayed on a paper towel to lubricate a retracting car antenna. When I touched the antenna I got a static electric shock, and the paper towel burst into flames in my hand. Good times.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Post by cameldrv »

alexbanks wrote: post #186
cameldrv wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Over 1000 people in America are dying every day of this disease. This thing costs probably $2 and likely provides significant protection. About 100 people in America die per day from motor vehicle accidents. Next I suppose you're going to tell me that the extra $50 it costs to install a seatbelt in my car is a waste of materials, time, and money too, right?

I think it's more that these would be a pretty involved overstep for regular people to be walking around in. Social distancing + hand washing + a homemade cloth mask is sufficient for regular people. For the same reasons that regular people don't need/shouldn't be wearing N95 masks everywhere, nor should these.

If the argument is that civilians shouldn't wear N95 masks outside, but rather donate them to people who need them even more, fine.

However, if the argument is that you shouldn't wear a $1 mask, which provides substantial protection against COVID, because it's not necessary, I would refer you again to the 1000 people that died yesterday that didn't wear an N95 mask. The amount of mental gymnastics you have to do to hold this belief is frankly astonishing.

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Post by Austin_Conlon »

awinder wrote: post #58

I can hear Jony Ive describing it as "fashioned from a single continuous pane of clear polymer" in my ears right now...

The closest equivalent would be Jony Ive talking about the clarity of purpose in designing a space suit (34:00) https://charlierose.com/videos/17469.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Post by _jal »

nsxwolf wrote: post #55
ForHackernews wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Most ordinary non-healthcare-worker people have no need for this level of PPE, especially if they're following social distances rules like they should be.

I can't control what other people do in grocery stores. They walk too close and there's nothing I can do about it. I'd like something to keep shit out of my eyes.

Get a welding mask, then. It'll do the same thing.
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