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How SEO Ruined the Internet

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Glad to hear this exists, but is there anything like it for Firefox?

Most Chrome extensions can now be run on Firefox without alterations. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/recipe-filter...

I tried loading the source as a temporary add-on, it looks like this is not one of them.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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So, someone pays a lot of money hiring people to farm content repeating the same meaningless expressions again and again, to get some visitors from Google so they can show them some adds and make money.

Wouldn't it be more productive to hire people to write meaningful and interesting content? That way they wouldn't just have visitors tricked to come from Google but also a constant following.

The only reason I see for junk content is lack of imagination.

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I have the reverse problem: Google would happily return me Polish-language results for everything, where I almost never want that. For the types of searches I do, there's almost never anything worthwhile in my native language. This, + their annoying attempt at detecting which country I'm in (so I would get German results when in Germany, and Chinese results when in China) led me one day to figuring out the magic URL…

Do share, please.

I don't have the original anywhere; I used it exclusively on my work laptop two jobs back, which was the only one that moved internationally somewhat frequently (for the rest of my machines, I clicked around Google settings until I got English-language results and that usually stuck). But I think it was https://google.com/search?hl=en&q=%s.

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Every time I land on websites that have such content I am wondering why anybody would want that kind of traffic. I mean, don't they have server costs? It's like they own an infinite amount of money bucket that constantly gets refilled somehow. Why are advertisers even paying them for such impressions? Are they so ridiculously retarded in their business model? Can we all hurt advertisers by setting up a website like t…

Seems to me like you have it backwards. The reason you even got a chance to click on it is because they wrote it that way. If they didn't, it wouldn't be as visible in Google = nobody would see it. When most websites do this (to survive) folks don't have a choice. Also, advertisers don't pay for something that's invisible.

To base your income and your future on something as volatile as Google search seem to me a terrible idea.

What if algorithm changes will tank your all your fleet of poor content websites you've spent last few years on?

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I have never understood what the filler content on recipe pages is accomplishing though. It somehow makes the page do better in google? How?

Plain and simple, Google won't rank you without it. Google looks for additional filler when ranking. Otherwise you would see different kinds of sites.

Then we have to blame Google, not the authors.

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Yep. Say I want a recipe. A tried and true delicious recipe. Can I search and just find a recipe? Nope. Through the magic of SEO, I now have to scroll through 15 paragraphs of somebody's life story before being able to examine the time and ingredients. How much time and energy was wasted on building "tag" systems? All those fun little term link clouds that sites used to have. I know I wasted time on it. I had somethi…

Or you could buy a cookbook. There's a bunch of them out there. Some are good, some are bad, some are long-lived classics, some are deep dives into a particular cuisine by someone who knows it inside out. You'll still have to suffer through a certain amount of SEO bullshit, you probably don't wanna just go to Amazon and try buying the best-selling cookbook in whatever cuisine you're interested in because that's got i…

Books? You mean those old fashioned things made out of paper with black signs on it?

Most are black and white only and don't even have pictures.

Grandpa used to read that.

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The moment when Google turned to the dark side was in 2005-2006, when they stopped sponsoring the "Web Spam Squashing Summit" and started sponsoring SEO conventions. "There's going to be a Web Spam Squashing Summit next week: Thursday, Feb 24th. (2005). Technorati is organizing the event (thanks guys!) and we're hosting it on-site at Yahoo in Sunnyvale. The main goal to get the tool makers in a room together to talk…

I can tell you as an in-the-trenches SEO that Google is 100% not in cahoots with SEOs in any way. Google WILL bend over backwards for paid search agencies that direct their clients ad spend through AdWords - but this is not SEO. These paid search agencies that funnel millions to AdWords will get invited to Mountain View, get paid lunches, visits from Googlers, etc. - but this is SEM not SEO. What does Google do for S…

You base your judgement on the legal and public communication between Google and SEOs.

Everyone else is basing their judgement on the effect google has on the Web.

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I find this particular example particularly gross. Recipe's are no doubt a heavily searched category. Why does google allow pure CPM hacking garbage websites to win the top spots? does it have to do with the google ads from top to bottom?

> Why does google allow pure CPM hacking garbage websites to win the top spots? Something bothered me about this question, and I think it's the way it frames Google's role as being a passive participant. Google doesn't "allow" anything. Google writes the rules and picks the winners. When you search for "chocolate chip cookie recipe," Google's search algorithm goes "Here's a nice webpage with Grandma Betty's life stor…

Long time ago having your site in a high quality curated directory like DMOZ boosted your search ranks a lot.

I was an editor for a few categories at DMOZ. Not only I allowed only good content in our categories, but I checked older approvals from time to time to see if they behave. I had to delist some websites who thought they can trick us.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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As I see it, maybe 1% of the web is not junk.

I think we need an alternative search engine based on community vetting.

I.e. you submit your url to the search engine but it isn't present in all search results until a certain number of real people will say it's meaningful and useful. You can do that by only showing it first in 1% of search results and ask people to rate it.

You don't have to index 10 billion websites, you just have to index 1 million of useful websites.

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Recipe blogs are the worst! Just get to the goods already!

Years ago when I was a child growing up in the icy woods of Alaska, my parents ... ... And that was when we realized that the kindling was all damp. What to do! Four hours we ... ... it reminded of our travels in Italy ... ... And that brings us to our famous three-ingredient peanut butter cookie recipe:

Google has transformed any webmaster into a writer.

After a few years of writing recipes, one can transition to screenplays and novels. :)

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