I’m just like you. I stumbled upon a book called Refuse to Choose and it’s about a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD) that happens to want to do a lot of things (sometimes in parallel or in sequence). It was very comforting to know others struggle with this and this book helps you to be ok with it. I wouldn’t say it “cured” me but I think about it differently now and use it more to my advantage. Worth a r…
Awesome thanks for the book recommendation, just picked it up. For me, this has been the defining struggle of my adult life. I've only just become truly aware of it though but when I think back to stuff like when I was a kid playing MMORPGs I would utterly struggle to make a character to level 10 before re-rolling for something more appealing. Now it is almost a pathological issue I have where I just can't seem to ch…
Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?
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#302I’m just like you. I stumbled upon a book called Refuse to Choose and it’s about a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD) that happens to want to do a lot of things (sometimes in parallel or in sequence). It was very comforting to know others struggle with this and this book helps you to be ok with it. I wouldn’t say it “cured” me but I think about it differently now and use it more to my advantage. Worth a r…
Those that are more successful can get past that and make something more profound. There's a lot more than dopamine when you make something you can be truly proud of, that can potentially be a living for you as well.
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#303I’m just like you. I stumbled upon a book called Refuse to Choose and it’s about a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD) that happens to want to do a lot of things (sometimes in parallel or in sequence). It was very comforting to know others struggle with this and this book helps you to be ok with it. I wouldn’t say it “cured” me but I think about it differently now and use it more to my advantage. Worth a r…
My "projects" folder on my PC is scattered with numerous projects that I've started and never finished. These range from games, tools and webpages - written in every language that I found an interest in. I think you're right in that it's the journey that matters to some, not the destination. As I've gotten older, I feel less pressured to finish these side-projects. When it comes to actual day-job work. The final 20%…
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#304Back in my early career years, and even before when I was a student, I used to have a lot of cool side projects that would only interest me for so long. I would spend a few hours or days on them, and then throw them out or forget them.
It was ok because I did not care about the project in itself. It was interesting to try new techs, or methods, or just spend some time doing something I loved.
It stopped being ok when something shifted in my mind : I subconsciously decided that I wanted to stick to a project. But it was for the wrong reasons. I wanted to make money. I wanted to have a cool startup. I wanted to be able to stop working. Too much Hackernews hype. But since I did not really care about the project itself, I never managed to stick to it.
After years of frustration, I quit wasting my time and took on some other non IT related hobbies.
Two years ago, I picked a side project for the first time in years: it's a cool music theory related website.
https://www.mamie-note.fr in case you're curious.
I've managed to keep working on it (and being interested to do it) since then. It's the longest time I've ever spent on a single project.
Here are the things that are different for me today:
- I do care about the project in itself: it's the site I wish existed when I started learning music, and the site grows as I'm growing as a musician.
- I really enjoy the daily process of working on it, I don't fantasize about how great the end result will be in a few years.
- I don't care about the tech, I care about the topic.
- I'm turning the site into a business, but making a living with it will be a cool side effect, not the main objective.
- Since I do have a family now (and we are in lockdown), I have much less time to work on it. It's easier to stay motivated when you spend two or three ours on a project instead of 15 or 20.
- Working on this project is a hobby, but it's not my only hobby, I take interest in other things, so when I'm bored and don't sweat it and take breaks for some days or weeks.
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#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm probably not the guy that would have devised a strong marketing plan, beat doors down or cold-called for sales Ever considered pairing up with someone from a nontechnical background?
I've tried a variety of things. The first big step once I realized that I was sloughing off the boring bits was to try tackling the boring bits first. Start with a basic app that included user registration, an empty FAQ page, etc., but that generally meant quitting the project earlier rather than later. Then I thought well, maybe I'll just build up a library of reusable components for that, but hey guess what? That s…
But every time I realize "Why am I handing someone else all this value", and venture out on my own, I can't seem to motivate myself in the same way. It blows my mind and I can't seem to figure it out.
Maybe I need to invent an imaginary supervisor to report to at the end of the day.
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#306I can be disciplined enough to stick with something as part of a lifestyle, or whatever I find consistently rewarding, e.g. an exercise regimen and cooking new things. When it comes to creative projects, I'll get to the point of having a rough outline but often just ditch the rest. Particularly with music more-so than writing, the pursuit feels pointless or unimportant, and I always got the sense that the special catalyst with music is people, feeding off the passion of other musicians. I tend now to skip the BS and just go straight to composition since that is the aspect of music that most interests me.
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#307I've finished loads of hobby projects, despite full time jobs, and I've been told that I'm a bit of an expert on this. I see there's lots of comments already so I'll keep it short. 1) If you can't focus on a project longer than two days, then pick a project you can finish in three days. Honestly evaluate how big such a project can be. I also see this as students learn to code. They learn the basics then think they're…
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#308What happens when you play video games? For me video games are fun and easy to focus on day after day. I realized that this is because video games have done a very good job of defining a goal --> FTL (my current favorite) == get to the final sector and destroy the rebel flagship. The goal is clear and you 100% know when you're done. I've learned that I used to be really bad at defining goals. I'd say things like... '…
You not just need 'delivery' goals, but small goals as well, like missions in a game. Where you see you are progressing.
Also in videogames you never hit a wall, you never have to fight a boss that impossible to beat at your level. Side projects are more like those pay to win games. Where the first part is easy, but after that, the progress can be slow. You have to get a big reward (for me it is usually scratching my own itch) to make the grinding part work.
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#309I'm doing tests of different stuff, writing prototypes, all good stuff. First there was more strategy and later there is more tactical planning and execution but I still more do what I feel I want to do right now than follow so roadmap or something. I sit down and think what I want to do right now and I write myself one post-it with tasks to do, stick it to laptop next to the touch pad. Than I do this fully or partially and than new post-it. I think that my mind is telling me the place of maximum development for my level of skills and I keep faith that this path will take me to some destination that is original.
After 1,5 year and 3 throw away partially working prototypes I have something that is quite cool I have something like creator to generate application for production systems. I discovered my own cool frontend architecture. Thinking about everything from first principle and go to place of interest giving really cool results in retrospect.
No I'm a bit forcing myself with last 2 post-its because I have company that want to use this system and I need to finish details that I didn't care about to do because I was going around it. But now when I see it almost finished and useful somehow it goes easier.
Soul of the explorer is a great gift, no need to change it.
Generally for me 30 yo it was mark of stopping being my own enemy and started things that I always wanted. To this time I was just doing this random stupid stuff and thought that it will all fall together. (Disclaimer: It did).