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Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Pretty neat! Similarly, I often use Wikipedia to find translations for specific technical terms that aren't in bilingual dictionaries or Google Translate. If you go to a wiki page about a term, there are usually many links on the sidebar to versions in other languages, which are usually titled with the canonical term in that language.

+1; I’ve used that method so many times that I wrote a Python CLI tool for that a few years ago: https://github.com/bfontaine/wptranslate

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Indeed. Even the GitHub repositories description has this error. > Resolve DNS queries using the official link found on a topic's Wikipedia page @aaronjanse: you probably want to correct this. "Resolving DNS records" carry a specific meaning in that you have a DNS record and you "resolve" it to a value, which actually. You're kind of doing, in a way, I suppose. I was convinced when I started writing this comment that…

I mean once we account for all the different types of DNS records - regardless of its original intent, isn't it essentially just a networked, hierarchical key store? For example the TXT field is "dns". This project is still doing key -> value. It just fetches the value from Wikipedia first, much like your normal dns servers have to fetch non-cached keys from their sources (other dns servers normally)?

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Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Indeed. Even the GitHub repositories description has this error. > Resolve DNS queries using the official link found on a topic's Wikipedia page @aaronjanse: you probably want to correct this. "Resolving DNS records" carry a specific meaning in that you have a DNS record and you "resolve" it to a value, which actually. You're kind of doing, in a way, I suppose. I was convinced when I started writing this comment that…

I mean once we account for all the different types of DNS records - regardless of its original intent, isn't it essentially just a networked, hierarchical key store? For example the TXT field is "dns". This project is still doing key -> value. It just fetches the value from Wikipedia first, much like your normal dns servers have to fetch non-cached keys from their sources (other dns servers normally)?

Just because it's doing key-value pairs does not mean it's DNS. If I can't `dig` it, it's not DNS. This is simply doing HTTP redirects and works with no other protocols.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Interesting idea but: - How do you handle ambiguity? e.g what happens when sci-hub.idk and scihub.idk differ? - Aren’t you concerned by the fact that Wikipedia is open to editing by the public?

Your second point was my first thought - mostly because of an experience I had.

I used Pushbullet's recipe for "Google acquisitions" up until the night I got the notification "Google acquires 4chan". After being perplexed for a bit and a few more "acquisitions" were made, I discovered the recipe just used Wikipedia's List of mergers and acquisitions by Alphabet[1] page as a source.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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I believe the German version of Wikipedia had(has?) a feature where you only get verified versions of a page when you browse it anonymously.

> I believe the German version of Wikipedia had(has?) a feature where you only get verified versions of a page when you browse it anonymously. What’s a “verified version”? Who verifies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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post #93

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I mean once we account for all the different types of DNS records - regardless of its original intent, isn't it essentially just a networked, hierarchical key store? For example the TXT field is "dns". This project is still doing key -> value. It just fetches the value from Wikipedia first, much like your normal dns servers have to fetch non-cached keys from their sources (other dns servers normally)?

Just because it's doing key-value pairs does not mean it's DNS. If I can't `dig` it, it's not DNS. This is simply doing HTTP redirects and works with no other protocols.

Hm, there are plenty of DNS records (not to mention all the custom ones all around the world) that you won't be able to `dig` but most people would still call DNS.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Yes I wonder if these URLs have to be made public by law in DMCA notices. I assume that, if they legally could, they wouldn't show you anything

The notices don't have to be disclosed to anyone but the alleged infringer. The URLs don't have to be hyperlinked either. This is one part of Google giving the trolls a middle finger.

Google should index them all on a separate page. For science of course.

More than once I've done a search for something pedestrian (no intent for piracy/etc) only to notice the "some results removed" link. Out of curiosity I've clicked it, just to see what crazy things have been removed, and been quite amused/interested in the results.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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> I believe the German version of Wikipedia had(has?) a feature where you only get verified versions of a page when you browse it anonymously. What’s a “verified version”? Who verifies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

Verifiability is about the ability to check some information using reliable sources ; it has nothing to do with having “verified versions” of pages.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability

Verifiability is about the ability to check some information using reliable sources ; it has nothing to do with having “verified versions” of pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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This may be a little off topic, but has anyone ever considered a web standard that includes a cryptographic signed file in a standard "well known" location that would contain content such as - Domains used by the site (first party) - Domains used by the site (third party) - Methods allowed per domain. - CDN's used by the site - A records and their current IP addresses - Reporting URL for errors Then include the publi…

That's a good use case for blockchain, in regards to the "consensus aggregation of data" that you mentioned.
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