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Re: Tesla Ventilator

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Not sure what to think of this. Any people working with real medical ventilators care to comment on this?

Not a doctor, but I did a crash course in ventilators recently and it has the main features - inspiration/expiration pressure, volume, rate, oxygen %.

UK gov also put out a document with the MVP for a ventilator, and the Tesla one looks like it will cover most of the therapeutic features.

The one thing I would worry about is software bugs in such a rushed project.

Re: Tesla Ventilator

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This looks promising. They're being smart to use their own supply chain as much as possible, but obviously things will get interesting when it comes to getting clearance to deploy the device. Even if the design can't be used in it's entirety, they may be able to fill part of the supply chain for other manufacturers.

One complaint - everyone keeps touching their damned masks. Keep your booger picker away from your face.

Re: Tesla Ventilator

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For more background info on what is needed for a ventilator and why it isn't that simple: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22779665

The Tesla prototype seems much closer to a medical ventilator than most of the overly simplified models shown in that video. Working Medtronic is likely a large advantage here.

Adjusting air temperature and humidity seems like the biggest missing piece.

Re: Tesla Ventilator

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post #11
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Not sure what to think of this. Any people working with real medical ventilators care to comment on this?

Not a doctor, but I did a crash course in ventilators recently and it has the main features - inspiration/expiration pressure, volume, rate, oxygen %. UK gov also put out a document with the MVP for a ventilator, and the Tesla one looks like it will cover most of the therapeutic features. The one thing I would worry about is software bugs in such a rushed project.

Tesla (and SpaceX) has experience with life critical code (running vehicle powertrains independent of the rest of the vehicle subsystems; please save Autopilot critiques for another thread).

A fully validated ventilator is ideal, but if your other option is death, a ventilator that is "less than fully validated" might be preferable.

EDIT: You're right to acknowledge there might be bugs, it's important to quantify risk. You decision based on the risk(s) raised.

Re: Tesla Ventilator

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This looks promising. They're being smart to use their own supply chain as much as possible, but obviously things will get interesting when it comes to getting clearance to deploy the device. Even if the design can't be used in it's entirety, they may be able to fill part of the supply chain for other manufacturers. One complaint - everyone keeps touching their damned masks. Keep your booger picker away from your fac…

It's because their masks keep dropping when speaking. It's surprisingly hard to fit the mask in a way that you do not feel the urge to adjust it every now and then.

Re: Tesla Ventilator

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I'll be interested to see how well they can scale this up. Production functions are always dependent on the most scare component. Hopefully Tesla can leverage their already existing supplier base to easily source everything needed for this design.

I'm interested in this too. In the video, they said they're attempting to make this using as many car parts as possible, to prevent themselves from taking supply away from other ventilator manufacturers. That's a noble goal, as well as it helps them leverage their existing supply chain.

I'm curious what the mixing chamber is used for in an electric vehicle. Is it part of the climate control system?

Re: Tesla Ventilator

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Hopefully they get these right instead of ordering C-PAP machines [1] [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/billroberson/2020/04/04/health-...

Some hospitals converted those C-PAP machines into ventilators using these modifications: https://engineering.berkeley.edu/news/2020/04/turning-sleep-...
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