Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
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Re: Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
#2One factor to consider: Some folks will be absolutely terrified to learn they have this disease, which may have real effects. An example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_death
“These data suggest that vagus contributes to severe emotional states and may be related to emotional states of immobilization, such as extreme terror. Unfortunately, this immobilization technique is potentially life-threatening for mammals (but not for reptiles). Mammals would undergo states of bradycardia or hypoxia as an over-activation of parasympathetic vagus system. The organs of the oxygen-hungry mammal are deprived of oxygen due to lack of blood flow, and the animal dies.”
Re: Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
#3There is a paper circulating that claims that the virus impedes red blood cells leading to organ failure including lungs, and not the other way round.
Re: Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
#4is this 1 in 5 in people who are otherwise asymptomatic as well? I guess not, or we would be seeing a lot more dead but I wonder if there are any heart attacks occurring in otherwise asymptomatic people and not being marked down as Covid-19 related.
Re: Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
#5One factor to consider: Some folks will be absolutely terrified to learn they have this disease, which may have real effects. An example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_death “These data suggest that vagus contributes to severe emotional states and may be related to emotional states of immobilization, such as extreme terror. Unfortunately, this immobilization technique is potentially life-threatening for mamm…
That implies a low heart rate causing death, correct?
If so, this would be an easy hypothesis to test based on heart rate.
But also, do the rats in voodoo death have heart damage? These covid patients do. If the rats don’t, then you’re quite off track.
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#6There is a paper circulating that claims that the virus impedes red blood cells leading to organ failure including lungs, and not the other way round.
so if it impedes red blood cells does this mean my gout is helping me out?
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#7is this 1 in 5 in people who are otherwise asymptomatic as well? I guess not, or we would be seeing a lot more dead but I wonder if there are any heart attacks occurring in otherwise asymptomatic people and not being marked down as Covid-19 related.
I just had a family friend die of a heart attack with no covid symptoms - definitely a scary time
Re: Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
#8is this 1 in 5 in people who are otherwise asymptomatic as well? I guess not, or we would be seeing a lot more dead but I wonder if there are any heart attacks occurring in otherwise asymptomatic people and not being marked down as Covid-19 related.
I just had a family friend die of a heart attack with no covid symptoms - definitely a scary time
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#9There is a paper circulating that claims that the virus impedes red blood cells leading to organ failure including lungs, and not the other way round.
Do you have a link?
Re: Mysterious heart damage, not just lung troubles, befalling Covid-19 patients
#10There are ACE-2 receptors all over the heart.