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Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

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Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

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Since I haven’t seen this in the comments so far, I’ll suggest that you begin to reflect on what’s truly meaningful to you. It sounds like you’re able to have a lot of ideas that aren’t particularly meaningful, which are probably ideas you got from the values of your cultural environment. So try reflecting on the following prompts: what kinds of experiences do I want to help people have, that would be truly satisfyin…

just read your "why I quit" blog. thanks for documenting your journey as it will help other travelers give themselves 'permission' to explore new paths.

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

#72
I find it much easier if I pick projects that I actually could benefit from. For example I started working on a note taking app a little while ago, because I couldn't find one that I liked. I know I will probably not get a complete return on my time investment, but it keeps me motivated to finish since I know I can make it exactly how I want and end up with a product perfectly suited to me.

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

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I’m just like you. I stumbled upon a book called Refuse to Choose and it’s about a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD) that happens to want to do a lot of things (sometimes in parallel or in sequence). It was very comforting to know others struggle with this and this book helps you to be ok with it. I wouldn’t say it “cured” me but I think about it differently now and use it more to my advantage. Worth a r…

I always attributed this behavior to undiagnosed ADHD, but "Scanner" is a, unique but fitting, group I never heard of. Thanks for sharing!

Zoom Party would be great! ;)

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

#74
The only reason I completed a side project was because I had people that I cared about that wanted my side project done to help them out. In other words, I had social motivation and collaboration. For me, going completely alone on something is much more difficult because its like the tree the forest making no sound (perception) if no one is there to hear it. It doesn't seem to have that connection or impact of meaning unless I have others that care that I have direct interaction with.

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

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You must pick something that is really meaningful for you in a way that will make you feel good seeing the progress of the project you are working on. What would a Roguelike have to be to take your full attention? How a strategy game you really love has to look like?

What you like beyond games? If you like gardening, make a game about it. Are you a sports fan? Make a sport game. You get the idea.

I'm saying this because it's working for me. Like you, I want to make games on my own. I am also into politics, so I chose a language and a framework[¹] and started from the tutorial with the goal of making a politically-charged infinite-runner[²].

After getting the basics I told my idea to a couple of friends that kindly drew sprites for me to use in the game. It's been a really cool experience. I'm doing it everyday and learning a lot in the way. I strongly believe that the subject choice for the project is what is getting me hooked to it.

¹: https://haxe.org and https://haxeflixel.com/

²: https://github.com/fullynotanalien/bozorun (edit: formatting)

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

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I’m just like you. I stumbled upon a book called Refuse to Choose and it’s about a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD) that happens to want to do a lot of things (sometimes in parallel or in sequence). It was very comforting to know others struggle with this and this book helps you to be ok with it. I wouldn’t say it “cured” me but I think about it differently now and use it more to my advantage. Worth a r…

I see a big disconnect between:

“ I know! I'll write a roguelike in X! Five minutes later, I'm thinking: fuck roguelikes! I'll write a graphical solitar card game with Y! Five minutes later, I don't care for it anymore, and would rather write an isomorphic strategy game in Z.”

And:

“If you are no longer interested in a project you started, maybe you already got what you came for.”

There is no way that you got what you came for in those five minutes.

There’s several orders or magnitude that fit into this disconnect and it just says “ADHD-I” to me.

...and I feel my eyes roll back into my head when I read this:

“...a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD)”

...because the invention of new personality types and the stigmatic treatment of ADHD is just... very shallow.

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

#77
There's a benefit to finishing things, but there's also a benefit in quitting when you're bored.

You don't need to finish a frontend for it if you get bored halfway through. Hell, you don't even need to finish the entire app if you think of something else to do with Haskell. You'll have learned something from the todo app even though you didn't finish. And pushing through might have just put you off of the entire thing.

That being said, I do think there is value to actually finishing things. It will allow you to learn about the entire process.

I'm developing a Godot game now. I'm done with the logic of the game, but I'm pushing through to publish it on an app store. Just to have gone through the entire cycle of 'polishing for an app store' even though the actual development was my main interest.

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

#78
You sound like you like motivation.

"Motivation" is the "why?" of what you're starting. If you start a project and exhaust the "why", it's ok to stop there.

Is it curiosity? Is it want to learn something new? Is it want to check out a new technology? You could well answer these questions without actually finishing a project (it the final project itself wasn't the original "why").

If you want some real life "why"s, you could check out one of the many Covid-19 project aggregators. Here is an aggregator of such aggregators: https://covid19projects.now.sh/

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

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I’m just like you. I stumbled upon a book called Refuse to Choose and it’s about a personality type (that is definitely not ADHD) that happens to want to do a lot of things (sometimes in parallel or in sequence). It was very comforting to know others struggle with this and this book helps you to be ok with it. I wouldn’t say it “cured” me but I think about it differently now and use it more to my advantage. Worth a r…

I always attributed this behavior to undiagnosed ADHD, but "Scanner" is a, unique but fitting, group I never heard of. Thanks for sharing! Zoom Party would be great! ;)

...unique, unresearched, vague, made up, not treatable unlike ADHD, but lacking in negative stigma because it’s new and exciting and therefore even more likely to appeal to someone with untreated ADHD...

Re: Ask HN: How can I pick a side project and stick with it?

#80
I have battled this since programming became my profession. Over years I was trained to create in ways that maximize income, and stop when there is no income link. Decades later, this made working for passion very difficult.

Here are a few ideas that seem to consistently help me.

* one, sheer willpower. It's a muscle that needs building, but keep going when you don't have any further interest for the sake of completing the task. Even when it feels like torture. It's about forcing yourself to the finish line. Often the interest comes back later.

* Move the finish line closer. Formally write down what you want to develop with milestones, with a go/no go decision at each milestone. If you decide not to continue at a milestone, that was part of the plan, so you completed the project.

* work on things that develop skills you expect to bring to the workplace and apply there. That's a pretty direct link to income.

* work on things you want or to keep current with younger hires -- I'm learning gitops on k8s at home, and packaging charts to self-host some things I've wanted at home anyways. Even though I manage these days, it's important to understand how things work to a decent degree in order to have meaningful discussions with the broader team. I know managers who get by without that, but I'm not one of them.

For what it's worth, continuing on because that's what you planned to do sometimes leads to a renewal of interest later in the project.

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