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How SEO Ruined the Internet

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Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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So you replied to my response about the exact search term I used by telling me... this?

Yes, you said it was happening currently, so I tried it. The problem you're complaining about doesn't actually appear to exist, at least not objectively.

You are using a different query it seems.

Also as a non native speaker you appear to be rude.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#52
post #46

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This is correct. DuckDuckGo is finally better.

My experience is the opposite: while there certainly was a time when I felt DDG actually respected my queries [1] that time is now gone. The results I get often have very little to do with what I typed in the search box. I find myself resorting to !g more often than ever before. [1] I seem to have thought so in last December: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18665232

After the last bout of anti-google posts on HN about a month ago, I took the comment advice and switched fully to DDG.

My experience was horrible. I don't tend to search 'popular' subjects, only technical ones, and hobbyist stuff. DDG was just plain useless for this, I had to switch back to google after about a week as I was using the !g prefix almost all the time.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#53
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> Yes, on average it works Maybe we frequent vastly different websites, but this has absolutely not been true for me, even for companies who are supposed to be experts at using their data. I don't think I've ever seen an ad that has actually been relevant, and I'm not even trying to hide my habits or behaviors. For example, take Amazon. Their ads all over the web frequently recommends me stuff I've already bought jus…

> > Yes, on average it works > Maybe we frequent vastly different websites... I think we agree. What I mean is on average it works for Google , not that it works for us. They still makes boatloads of cash. For what I know the targeting is equally bad for you and me and everyone and they are just convincing advertisers that is worth paying for despite this.

Right, that's a good point, that it's working on their side with convincing the advertisers. Thanks for clarifying so I could understand!

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#54
I think most spam websites today could be filtered out with very simple algorithms. But that would lead to fewer people ending up on these websites and clicking ads. So if your search engine is also an ad network, filtering out spam websites is not in your interest.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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post #25
post #5

I totally agree. Google has become useless for about half my searches. It gives me only the biggest, most commercial or most popular results. Anything obscure is impossible to find. I'd like to have a search engine where you get only the most obscure, hard-to-find content. One where you can tweak the kind of content you're looking for, or even switch between different modes: am I just looking for the definition of a…

I see mainly two problems: - Affiliate spam from douchebags that provide "reviews" of products just to link back to Amazon. Makes it nearly impossible to find actual reviews of products. - People who type whole sentences in natural language into Google. I tried since I used the internet to serach for keywords, omit as much words as possible that aren't necessary. Most people (after I guess ~2010?) don't. This worsens…

Wow! Now people who know how to type using proper grammar and vocabulary are a problem???

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#56
A MAJOR problem with google is it's assumption that if you search in English you don't care if the top results are American.

I've noticed that on google.co.uk, unless you add 'uk' at the end of your search query you'll always get US sites first [1]. Google clearly lump all English based queries into the same geo-graphical bucket - they never used to do this.

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[1] Yes, I am logged in, and Google knows where in the world I am.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#57
Google with default settings is useless and using more sophisticated queries quickly walls off the user with increasingly annoying captcha.

The "world's knowledge under you fingertips" motto is still valid and brilliant though. My personal solution is library of OCR-ed PDFs with most established books from various domains, git repository for each domain. Greppable in miliseconds, locally. Hijack this, SEO experts!

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#58
post #22
post #5

I totally agree. Google has become useless for about half my searches. It gives me only the biggest, most commercial or most popular results. Anything obscure is impossible to find. I'd like to have a search engine where you get only the most obscure, hard-to-find content. One where you can tweak the kind of content you're looking for, or even switch between different modes: am I just looking for the definition of a…

To me it seems the problem with Google goes far deeper than struggling with bad SEO. - For years it has been next to impossible to get a result that is faithful to the search you actually typed in. This is not dependent on SEO spammers at all, only on Googles unwillingness to accept that not every user is equal and some of us mean exactly what we write, especially when we take the time to enclose our queries in doubl…

You're not their customer, advertisers are, so it's only natural that the ads you see aren't personalized. That's never been the goal.

It is, however, technically a potential benefit that the more exactly advertisers can target you, the more relevant ads you could be seeing, which is a wonderful sales pitch for users who are agnostic anyway, but that's not how advertising works in practice.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

#59
post #5

I totally agree. Google has become useless for about half my searches. It gives me only the biggest, most commercial or most popular results. Anything obscure is impossible to find. I'd like to have a search engine where you get only the most obscure, hard-to-find content. One where you can tweak the kind of content you're looking for, or even switch between different modes: am I just looking for the definition of a…

How are you meant to find the most obscure content? If it's obscure, it probably means it is not relevant to your search. How would a search engine like that even work?

Tweaking importance of some sites seems like a nice idea though, but it could also be a bad thing.

Re: How SEO Ruined the Internet

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post #5

I totally agree. Google has become useless for about half my searches. It gives me only the biggest, most commercial or most popular results. Anything obscure is impossible to find. I'd like to have a search engine where you get only the most obscure, hard-to-find content. One where you can tweak the kind of content you're looking for, or even switch between different modes: am I just looking for the definition of a…

There are definitely sites who's results I wish I could ban from my results. I won't visit them so they are just a waste of space. My short list, thillist, collider, vulture. Also related to SEO I think is every cooking recipe seems to be 6 to 8 large images and a bunch of unneeded text followed by the recipe 8 to 12 screens down. AFAICT it's entirely not related to me getting to the recipe and instead either a patte…

A Pinterest ban would greatly improve google results.
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