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What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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I have artist friends who get really annoyed when they hear people say "I wanted to draw but I just don't have any talent for it, not like you". They feel like it's totally dismissing the years of obsessive practice they've put into it to make it /seem/ effortless. Natural talent counts for something, but it's not going to make you a success. I saw "result = talent * effort" mentioned on the last HN post about this,…

I had an ex with natural talent for art. She never went anywhere with it (took the safe route and became a nurse instead), but she was just plain better at art than other people, with considerably less effort.

Some people certainly do have a natural talent for something. However, this rarely means that they're good enough to succeed at that thing without working on it. I.e. if your ex wanted to make a living as an artist she'd still likely have had to go to school / practice extensively before being good enough that people would have bought her stuff.

Also, and I don't know whether this is the case with your ex, it's entirely possible that she was better at art because she'd been idly drawing over the years. I've certainly known people who wouldn't call themselves artists whose default idle activity is to sketch away on a piece of paper. They're vastly better than me, because they've been practicing in a low-key way for years.

Natural talent just gives you a head start on others. Someone willing to put in more effort than you can still be better than you.

I suppose this may break down around the limits of a field, especially one rooted in physical activity. E.g. Michael Phelps seems to be nearly perfectly physically adapted for swimming. If he never practiced then he'd be easily outswum by anyone half-decent... but by putting in massive effort training he reaches a point where he's practically unbeatable.

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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I've come to believe that many people (like the article author) confuse talent with passion and persistence. If you naturally have a talent for something, you are more likely to pursue it and spark a passion for it. It's much easier to get good at something you have a natural inclination towards. This does not mean that talent is a prerequisite for getting good at something. And besides, having talent is like having…

Certain things require more talent than others. It doesn't matter how hard you practice, you're not going to run faster than Usain Bolt.

Do you think no one ever told Usain Bolt "It doesn't matter how hard you practice, you're not going to run faster than $previous_record_holder"?

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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I really dislike the idea of "talent". "You have to be talented." "It all starts from talent." I've seen people with seemingly NO talent for music or coding or whatever turn themselves into virtuosos because they WANTED it. It seems like saying "You need talent" is a way to tell people that "it's okay that you're not trying, because you might not be talented in this area". And that's bullshit.

Mark, if you're reading this, I'd like to suggest the Talent Code (http://www.amazon.com/Talent-Code-Greatness-Born-Grown/dp/05...), superior cousin to the more famous Talent Myth (http://www.amazon.com/Talent-Myth-Larry-Gluck/dp/1929473001)

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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At first, it looks like twitter, youtube etc are disrupting incumbent publishers, but then you see they are being co-opted as just another talent-scouting venue. It's sad for social media, but impressive of publishers. Looks like they still have something to offer.

Why is it sad for social media?

Seems like a social media success story to me.

Also, there's a big difference between a publisher and a coach or agent or manager or assistant or tutor.

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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I really dislike the idea of "talent". "You have to be talented." "It all starts from talent." I've seen people with seemingly NO talent for music or coding or whatever turn themselves into virtuosos because they WANTED it. It seems like saying "You need talent" is a way to tell people that "it's okay that you're not trying, because you might not be talented in this area". And that's bullshit.

Talent is worth about 1%. The other 99% is effort.

:D

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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I've come to believe that many people (like the article author) confuse talent with passion and persistence. If you naturally have a talent for something, you are more likely to pursue it and spark a passion for it. It's much easier to get good at something you have a natural inclination towards. This does not mean that talent is a prerequisite for getting good at something. And besides, having talent is like having…

Certain things require more talent than others. It doesn't matter how hard you practice, you're not going to run faster than Usain Bolt.

I wouldn't say Usain Bolt is talented because he's the faster runner. Majority reason why he is so fast is because of the amount distance he can cover with his leg stretch over his opponents due to his height; not his talented ability to quickly move one foot in front of another (just like ever professional runner has)

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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At first, it looks like twitter, youtube etc are disrupting incumbent publishers, but then you see they are being co-opted as just another talent-scouting venue. It's sad for social media, but impressive of publishers. Looks like they still have something to offer.

Why is it sad for social media? Seems like a social media success story to me. Also, there's a big difference between a publisher and a coach or agent or manager or assistant or tutor.

He's signed to Island Records (I have to admit I just assumed his was signed to a major label, because of how he is presented, and I looked it up just now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber).

It would be cool if social media replaced published. "Co-opted" is a technical term in disruption, meaning that the incumbents absorb the new approach instead of being replaced (i.e. disrupted) by them. At one time, there was a lot of talk about "disintermediation", where publishers and other middlemen between producer and consumer would disappear. That hasn't happened. The closest is iTunes and amazon, which disrupted retailers.

Although there is a long-tail, where it presumably is happening, it seems that we still need filters. Even more so, people often want whatever everybody else wants, just because they want it. They want to fit in, conform, be part of something greater than themselves, rather than be themselves. This is possibly (I have no idea) most true of Mr. Biebers' primary demographic, tween girls. This popularity for its own sake is where centralized music publishers are strongest, and disintermediated serving of the long-tail is weakest.

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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I think the most interesting part of the Bieber story is that he gives away all his music for free. He started on YouTube, so all his music is on YouTube. Sure, if you want it in a different format you'll have to buy a CD or go to the iTunes store, but if you just want to listen to it, it's free.

...and then he makes up for it by selling concerts and merchandise and now this movie, and he seems to be doing just fine.

But this business model is extremely disruptive, this is the exact opposite of what the recording industry wants and preaches. They want people to keep paying for the music again and again, and stop people from sharing.

I hope that the 1.3 billion views on YouTube can make more artists reconsider, and start giving away their music for free, and move to a business model that doesn't rely on copyright.

http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinBieberVEVO

Re: What Every Entrepreneur Could Learn from Justin Bieber

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Certain things require more talent than others. It doesn't matter how hard you practice, you're not going to run faster than Usain Bolt.

I wouldn't say Usain Bolt is talented because he's the faster runner. Majority reason why he is so fast is because of the amount distance he can cover with his leg stretch over his opponents due to his height; not his talented ability to quickly move one foot in front of another (just like ever professional runner has)

Physical makeup and mental makeup both count as talent.

Physical is easier to measure, but mental is just as real.

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