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Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by pmarreck » Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 4:33 AM UTC

gsnedders wrote: post #105

pmarreck wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying to convert people to various flavors of Linux for 20 years now and the usual showstopper is wifi not working at all, or at least without a ton more fiddling. Interesting to see that some things haven't changed. Trying to be constructive here, might it be because automated testing can't easily test things that touch the "real world"? Or is it due to some sheer number of possible wifi hardware implemen…

> Trying to be constructive here, might it be because automated testing can't easily test things that touch the "real world"? The Linux kernel still has embarrassingly little automated testing, and what is done is largely done by third-parties.

That’s... actively stupid at this point

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by pmarreck » Sat, Apr 04, 2020, 4:34 AM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #85

pmarreck wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying to convert people to various flavors of Linux for 20 years now and the usual showstopper is wifi not working at all, or at least without a ton more fiddling. Interesting to see that some things haven't changed. Trying to be constructive here, might it be because automated testing can't easily test things that touch the "real world"? Or is it due to some sheer number of possible wifi hardware implemen…

If you are pushing your new converts to install/update to bleeding edge kernel releases, you're really doing them a disservice and setting them up for failure.

Over the course of 20 years? I’ve seen this issue from attempting an old Red Hat mainstream distro on an old Thinkpad years ago to any one of a number of Ubuntu or other distro install attempts over the years

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by AtlasBarfed » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 2:35 AM UTC

Erlich_Bachman wrote: post #148

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #141

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It's been a decade of despair in desktops, and even more maddeningly for Linux. Windows tried to commit business suicide with their desktop, and Linux could have made such massive strides in that time. Instead the desktop balkanization is even worse, Ubuntu disrupted things with Unity, GNOME and KDE went through full version rewrites. OSX is also stagnant (the finder is terrible, basic apps like media playing and ima…

There are many Linux desktop environments that work great, I've been using them and am very happy with them. I am not sure what you mean "decade of despair".

Didn't they "work great" 10 years ago?

Then why did Ubuntu drop Gnome for Unity, then drop Unity for Gnome? Why the big rewrite of Gnome2? Why is wayland rewriting everything?

Multiple monitors sucks. Graphics drivers integration sucks.

Number of users is still incredibly small.

A decade of despair.