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Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by eleventyandone »

mysterydip wrote: post #168
pjc50 wrote: post #153

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> 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP. 57bn / 40m = $1425 $1425 / 365 = $3.90 While that's doable, it's really not a lot.

What's enough? We have a grocery budget of $500 a month for a family of 5. That's $3.30 per person per day.

How much is your restaurant and eating out budget? Or are you saying that your entire family gets 100% of it's dietary needs from your $500/month grocery budget? If so, that's impressive and you should share you shopping lists somewhere... I know I'd be interested in seeing that :)

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by vb6sp6 »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #138
Hello71 wrote: post #95

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and yet according to the USDA, "11.1 percent of households were food insecure at least some time during the year, including 4.3 percent (5.6 million households) that had very low food security".

The USDA definitions are extraordinarily misleading. “Food insecure” includes people who are at no risk of going hungry, but wish they had better food or a larger variety of food.

You'd be feeling pretty insecure if your only options for food was the boxed garbage from a gas station.

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Post by logfromblammo »

xienze wrote: post #176
pjc50 wrote: post #153

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> 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP. 57bn / 40m = $1425 $1425 / 365 = $3.90 While that's doable, it's really not a lot.

SNAP is a SUPPLEMENTAL program. It's not intended to pay 100% of your food bill.

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Post by rabidrat »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #155
alexgodin wrote: post #118

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The average SNAP recipient receives about $4 a day and sees their balance run out after just 17 days. This is not enough.

This is somewhat misleadingly worded: it makes it sound like what they receive each month is 17*4 = $68. The actual average per month is $127/recipient. Arguably this is still insufficient, though.

yeah they get 31*4, but they can only make it 17 days with that. I doubt I could make it even 17 days with only $127.

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Post by sadfev »

tren-hard wrote: post #18

One of those things I wish could out last this virus. We'd be so much better off as a society if we could at least keep our people fed. The comments in here seem a little negative currently but this is great news. Think of all the people in NYC who didn't have access to clean and regular food before the virus.

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Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by greedo »

gruez wrote: post #177
bosie wrote: post #43

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Regarding your first paragraph: At least in a lot of european countries, income tax isn't even the most lucrative tax for the government. Additionally quite a few working people aren't paying income tax. When you can deduct 13k from your income each year, not many people working for a supermarket are paying income taxes for example. Example, Amazon and VW are creating high revenue in Austria and Germany yet their tax…

>At least in a lot of european countries, income tax isn't even the most lucrative tax for the government. Can you provide a few examples? What other revenue streams do those governments have?

VAT would be the most obvious one.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by twomoretime »

ikeboy wrote: post #172
cs702 wrote: post #9

This is wonderful to see and badly necessary, particularly in a country like the US, where most people do not have ability to cover a $500 surprise bill in normal times: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-handle-a-50... -- and we are definitely not in normal times. Kudos to the NYC administration for putting this together so quickly.

The data shows the median net worth is around 100k. I'm very suspicious of claims about what the average American can afford based on surveys. Often they ask people how they would pay for something, and if the answer is "credit cards" they interpret it as that they can't afford it, which is plainly nonsense. Edit: took a look at your source. >“The survey shows that a very significant minority of American households a…

Any survey driven study is soft science and subject to trivial agenda injection. It's unfortunate that so much survey driven "science" influences policy.

People have learned to be wary I think of nutritional "studies" but it's taking them longer to catch on to the farcical nature of modern psychology. Which really IMO hasn't come that far from psychoanalysis of a few decades ago.

And how could it? All of psychology is based on subjective, non-experimental, non-verifiable, non-reproducable data.

We're watching all of our institutions collapse because it turns out not only are they (and individuals in our society) excessively interdependent, but they're also houses of cards...

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by beerandt »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #181
alexgodin wrote: post #118

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The average SNAP recipient receives about $4 a day and sees their balance run out after just 17 days. This is not enough.

I don't think SNAP is supposed to always cover 100% of food expenses. If you're near the cutoff point for benefits, you get some allowance, but you're expected to cover some of the food cost from your income. You would of course use your SNAP benefits first, since they are not fungible, so it is not surprising that you would run out before the end of the month. This does not mean that such households are unable to af…

Also, if a family qualifies for snap, their kids almost always automatically qualify for free school meals already, in addition to snap.
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