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'Call of Duty' wins First Amendment victory over use of Humvees

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Re: 'Call of Duty' wins First Amendment victory over use of Humvees

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Post by int_19h »

doperroper wrote: post #93
filoleg wrote: post #13

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Interesting you bring up a point about Jeep. Never once in the US I've heard of a non-Jeep-made SUV referred to as a "Jeep". But back when I lived in Russia, every single SUV was referred to as a "Jeep". I don't even know of another word for SUV in Russian. Not trying to argue against you btw, I just personally find stuff like this interesting. EDIT: just checked the wikipedia page for SUV in russian, and yep, in the…

i can answer that. russians are retarded (source: am russian). they see a new thing, and think anything written on the side is the name of it. Examples: marker =flomaster. clearly flow master, name of the guys who made the first marker seen in russia. hard drive =winchester. the model of the first hdd seen by russians. and don't try to tell them black olives are olives. they're masleeny, translating to 'oily'. becaus…

This sort of thing happens in all languages - it's not at all unique to Russian, and has nothing to do with Russians being "retarded".

Case in point: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jeepeta

Re: 'Call of Duty' wins First Amendment victory over use of Humvees

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Post by Supermancho »

danShumway wrote: post #139
Supermancho wrote: post #125

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> We still allow real products to be used in satires, even though satires The brand owners still get licensing fees whenever real brands are shown, in movies

I am not a lawyer, and I'd welcome input from a real lawyer. But I am almost certain that satirical references to real brands are protected by fair use. I similarly suspect that licensing is not a legal requirement for movies. I would be curious how you square your claim with Rogers v Grimaldi [0], or more directly, how you square it with the outcome of the very case we're commenting on. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org…

https://www.inta.org/TMR/Pages/vol99_no6_a2.aspx Pay attention to huge vulnerabilities like (6) the defendant’s intent in adopting the mark, wherein the defendant will have to show how a property was not used for a purpose, that the plaintiff will take issue with. Does anyone remember the Ford suit to stop news outlets from showing jihadists driving around in Ford pickups?

Rogers v Grimaldi is a narrow ruling in a district court about a celebrity name. It does not apply broadly to all branding and it's generally not worth a court battle to find out, since the filing is going to benefit the plaintiff.

That being said, there are consequences outside of pure legal issues to deal with in media production, which makes things like Apple's "allowance with their own restrictions" work. It's not a legal issue, but they can attack your post production just as well as making it a legal issue about filming.

Re: 'Call of Duty' wins First Amendment victory over use of Humvees

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Post by hyperman1 »

CDRdude wrote: post #69
boring_twenties wrote: post #54

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> Consumers are smart enough Counterpoint: the cratering sales of Corona beer in the past month

The search results I see indicate that Corona sales are up (along with all other beers).

A belgian shop did a promo recently: Buy 2 Corona, get 1 Morte Subite for free

https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/business/98659/delhai...

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Post by galkk »

alkonaut wrote: post #40
filoleg wrote: post #13

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Interesting you bring up a point about Jeep. Never once in the US I've heard of a non-Jeep-made SUV referred to as a "Jeep". But back when I lived in Russia, every single SUV was referred to as a "Jeep". I don't even know of another word for SUV in Russian. Not trying to argue against you btw, I just personally find stuff like this interesting. EDIT: just checked the wikipedia page for SUV in russian, and yep, in the…

That term or similar ones exist all over the world. The concept of “SUV” is weird to begin with and doesn’t easily translate. Also, the ur-SUVs with truck chassis basically don’t exist outside North America. What the rest of the world call SUVs are X5’s and XC90’s and similar (“crossover” is used for smaller ones usually, despite no technical difference) The common and slightly derogatory term for an X5/Q7/XC90 type…

> The common and slightly derogatory term for an X5/Q7/XC90 type SUV in Swedish is “Stadsjeep” (“city jeep”).

The Russian term for that is "parquet jeep"

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Post by pmachinery »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #148
Talanes wrote: post #142

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And plenty of reason to think against. The "dg" sound doesn't come through in "Frigidaire" at all. It does have an actual letter "d" present, but with the "i" in between the sound becomes entirely different. Compare to refrigerator, where the "frige" portion of the word slants easily to rhyme with "ridge."

I can't go that far. What country are you from? I would have said the second syllable of "refrigerator", and the first syllable of "Frigidaire", both obligatorily rhyme with "ridge". There's no alternative. "Frigidaire" should only really differ from "frigid air" in terms of prosody.

I think they're assuming Frigidaire is pronounced with a hard G, which is fair enough if you haven't heard it spoken before.

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Post by YokoZar »

crooked-v wrote: post #8
tinkertamper wrote: post #4

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I also don't know what I'm talking about, but I think one of the core responsibilities of a trademark owner is that you establish a history of defending it. I heard once that if you don't do that you risk losing control of your rights to that property. Any smarty pants on here able to confirm/set me straight?

This is called trademark erosion. An example of this historically would be aspirin, which was originally a trademarked brand name of Bayer but was legally ruled in 1918 and 1921 to have become genericized, because the company took no actions to prevent others from using the name. This generally only applies when non-holders use the trademark to market in the same field as the original business, though: not "we went t…

Aspirin didn't become generic because Bayer "took no action", it became generic because the trademark was surrendered as an explicit term in the Treaty of Versailles.

Most trademarks these days don't need to worry about being the literal spoils of war.

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Post by tdsamardzhiev »

malkia wrote: post #120
thatguy0900 wrote: post #117

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Interesting, I've never heard jeep used like that in the U.S. Actual jeeps are pretty common here though.

Born in Bulgaria, can confirm - "Джип", or "Джипка" which is really "Jeep" in bulgarian (and probably other slavic languages). Another one is "Yonica" for any synthesizer. Obviously "Scotch" (more for the tape, than drink). But... What I really love is "Pampers" - yes this is the bulgarian word for... "diapers"... and many more...

Don't forget "Xerox"

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Post by gdy »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #117
cosmodisk wrote: post #107

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The very first that came to my mind is Jeep. In some countries it literally means SUV nowadays.The term is so ingrained that pretty much everyone says like this: 'He's got a BMW Jeep' or 'Look, that's a nice looking Jeep, surely it's Mercedes!'. The funniest thing is that nobody can ever see a real Jeep anymore,as nobody buys them( talking about Europe here).

Interesting, I've never heard jeep used like that in the U.S. Actual jeeps are pretty common here though.

In Russia 'jeep' as an off-road vehicle has even made its way into a dictionary. The same with xerox as any photo-copier.

http://gramota.ru/slovari/dic/?word=%D0%94%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BF...

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