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Well that's embarrassing. Could you imagine being the crew of the cruise ship and having to rescue the clowns that just tried to ram you?
Kinda shows that they might be on blame
Ps: Venezuelan here and I hate my gov but this looks really shaddy
Well that's embarrassing. Could you imagine being the crew of the cruise ship and having to rescue the clowns that just tried to ram you?
They ran away, they didn't rescue them. Kinda shows that they might be on blame Ps: Venezuelan here and I hate my gov but this looks really shaddy
This is insane. I can't imagine what was going through the Venezuelan captain's head trying to do this. It's one thing if the shooting is already started to defend yourself. But even if this stunt had worked, you're looking at many months of downtime while your ship is being repaired in drydock. Millions of dollars, and bigtime loss of capability for a small navy. Unless you are an icebreaker, you just don't intentio…
Iceland and Britain duked it out in three major confrontations, the navies ramming each other but not firing a shot.
There are some truly spectacular videos on YouTube etc.
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Those shells will do nothing to stop the ship but will just kill a lot of people for no gains. If they wanted to seize the ship, they should have brought a boarding party with them, I'm sure they have trained sailors for that. Source: I'm a former naval officer and I served as an ordnance officer on a ship with that exact 76mm gun. I also acted as the officer of the deck for quite a few boardings.
Would the shells be able to breach the hull and sink it? I know the cruiser had a hardened hull, but I assume that's not exactly shell proof?
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Those shells will do nothing to stop the ship but will just kill a lot of people for no gains. If they wanted to seize the ship, they should have brought a boarding party with them, I'm sure they have trained sailors for that. Source: I'm a former naval officer and I served as an ordnance officer on a ship with that exact 76mm gun. I also acted as the officer of the deck for quite a few boardings.
How about a shot across the bow as a persuader? Maybe I've read too much Hornblower and Aubrey. Do navies still do that?
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With a boarding party via helicopter or specialized boarding craft (fast boats and rapeling?).
And how do you stop a ship if you consider it a biohazard and don’t want it to get near your dock (and also don’t have the equipment to safely board it without effectively throwing your sailors’ lives away), but it’s insistently coming in anyway? (Perhaps because it’s a “ship of the dead”, drifting unmanned toward your port. Or because it’s, say, just a big barge carrying a pile of tires that’s on fire.) ...would a s…
The military is a lot less militant than you'd think. At least in the Navy, we train hard for everything but we also ensure that we use force correctly and in proportion. We would never try to shoot at or harm a bunch of civilians, they're the people we were trying to protect, Americans or not. Maybe not every branch thinks like that, or things have changed in ~10 years I've been out, but I'd like to think any professional Navy would act the same.
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I mean, less crazy than trying to ram a ship with a locomotive I suppose: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0... https://in.reuters.com/video/watch/idOVC7T0OCH Strange days.
> "Moreno now faces a federal charge of one count of train wrecking — a crime that carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison." haha, being a trainwreck takes on new consequences. i wish they'd reported the conspiracy theory for which he wrecked the train though.
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With a boarding party via helicopter or specialized boarding craft (fast boats and rapeling?).
And how do you stop a ship if you consider it a biohazard and don’t want it to get near your dock (and also don’t have the equipment to safely board it without effectively throwing your sailors’ lives away), but it’s insistently coming in anyway? (Perhaps because it’s a “ship of the dead”, drifting unmanned toward your port. Or because it’s, say, just a big barge carrying a pile of tires that’s on fire.) ...would a s…
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As I understand it, sailors have strong ethics because the sea is the common enemy of all. Even sailors on ships at war will rescue the enemy after incapacitating their boat.
Yeah, but if you're a ship with a skeleton crew of civilians, you're going to think twice about rescuing a full compliment of soldiers from a dictatorship that just tried to sink you with no reason whatsoever.
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I mean, less crazy than trying to ram a ship with a locomotive I suppose: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0... https://in.reuters.com/video/watch/idOVC7T0OCH Strange days.
aw I was hoping that was a video of it crashing. I heard about this; would love to see the video of it crashing off the end of the rail line.