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Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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Oh, I was thinking in more subtle things such as spacing, punctuation, sizing, kerning, etc.

Ideally you don't want to count on a screenshot being published.

For numbers like this, you can add a small amount of random variation to each number, and then save whatever variations you used to a database whenever someone views the stats.

Now when a leak happens of a specific number, you just check the logs to see who saw those exact numbers.

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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>You ideally want to take measures to reduce the likelihood of a given recipient seeing anyone else's copy and thus having a chance to spot the variance, but there are ways to do that

How, exactly? If you know someone else received what you believe to be the same document, what's the disincentive?

Is it mostly a matter of attempting to not give away any indication of who else may have received it, so that no one knows who could be a candidate to compare with? Or including some amount of explicitly-marked data specific to the recipient which they somehow would have difficulty censoring before sharing?

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post #66

Ah, Amazon. Classy, as always. I'm wasn't counting, but I must be close to a 3 year no-Amazon streak. Who's with me?

What do you expect when the CEO is a literal vampire for the purpose of staying young. It was fucking horrifying reading up on that practice. It freaks me out to even type out this stuff but it's all true.

If I could afford it, and if it really work, I'd be a vampire, too. Pay some young people to donate a bit of their blood to a facility, get a transfusion, and you might retain your youth for longer, with a longer quantity of life and longer + higher quality of life? I'm below 30 now, but I'd sign up for such a thing without hesitation even if it bankrupted me - if it truly works and is safe.

Of course it'll be many years or decades before we have any real clarity on that, but if it works, and if it's a negligible, non-risky amount of blood donated by each person which also isn't risky for the recipient, and if it can be afforded, it really feels very ignorant not to sign up, to me. They just need to lower the costs so ordinary people can easily partake as well, not just super wealthy people.

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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Amazon really could be just as big as they are without going down the Walmart route of being actively shitty / evil. It sucks that they're choosing not to do that.

It’s why I cancelled my prime a few months back

https://cancelprime.com

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post #96

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Oddly, it reminds me of the way big banks handled Occupy movement. That was the first time I saw memes used as a carrier for straight propaganda. It was a sad moment for me. Mostly because having seen one of those memes, I immediately understood how terrifyingly effective they can be. Amazon has clearly learned a lot over the past few decades. odd edit: Just in case. I was kinda doing a fair amount of shorts on Amazo…

Could you show a few of those memes from back then?

I dug through my hdd and for the life of my I could not find the ones I was thinking of ( maybe it is time to finally tag my stuff properly ).

I looked online and I was only able to find one example of what I was thinking of ( https://awwmemes.com/i/spreads-message-of-anti-capitalism-fr... ). The one I remember was equally silly along the lines of "hates banks, uses money = hypocrite".

I will keep digging, because I know what I am looking for and it is not ancient history. I should have it somewhere.

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you expect when the CEO is a literal vampire for the purpose of staying young. It was fucking horrifying reading up on that practice. It freaks me out to even type out this stuff but it's all true.

If I could afford it, and if it really work, I'd be a vampire, too. Pay some young people to donate a bit of their blood to a facility, get a transfusion, and you might retain your youth for longer, with a longer quantity of life and longer + higher quality of life? I'm below 30 now, but I'd sign up for such a thing without hesitation even if it bankrupted me - if it truly works and is safe. Of course it'll be many y…

Wait, is this real? It seems deeply weird to me. I think they have a carve out for plasma, but surely selling your literal blood is illegal? If not, why can't people sell organs? I think this just introduces a sort of inequality that even American society can't stomach.

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post #11

The quote from Zapolsky is especially funny, because it exactly follows the PR strategy outlined in the leak notes the paragraph prior. What an incredibly fake, dishonest person. Not really the best candidate to be calling a union organizer "not smart, not articulate".

Funny thing, people using the word "articulate" are generally misusing it! They mean eloquent , not "articulate".

articulate: "Expressing oneself easily in clear and effective language"

That meaning is fine. What makes you think Zapolsky is wrong?

As far as I can tell this guy is a freaking PR genius. He managed to turn a leak into another chance to ram home his message.

The entire Vice article is ridiculous. People trying to organise a union smear their employers all the time, it's rather inherent in the task. Employers smearing back is now shocking behaviour? Double standards are rife.

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post #19

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Not because they said the organizer isn't eloquent or smart, but because Amazon wants to make this person the face of the movement. They're trying to make the whole movement look dumb by proxy, or that anyone who joined the movement is dumb because they're following a dumb guy. The public PR angle is that only a dumb stupid babbling person would deny the goodness that Amazon does for its employees and try to organize…

Agreed with P that the dirty part is Amazon trying to smear an entire labor movement by focusing on this organizer. Ironically the strategy has completely backfired. Agreed with GP that the other parts of the memo about obtaining and distributing masks don’t sound so bad at all, especially if they actually translate it into safer environments at warehouses and surrounding communities. In general, I wish companies who…

I wish companies who want to avoid unions just treated their workers well enough that they don’t want to unionize — seems like the most straight up way to “fight” unions.

That's pretty clearly not the case. Unions aren't about being 'treated well' in so many cases, they're about granting power to the union organisers.

Look at Kickstarter. They got a union because they took down a project that was violating their own terms of service by fund-raising for political violence. The union organisers primary aim was literally to force Kickstarter to support violence against conservatives. Being treated well had nothing to do with it. Look at Google. A pampered workforce, talking of unionising to try and force the organisation even further to the left.

Smart managers fight unions with everything they've got, or else the most hard-left workers they've got will take over the company by force and subvert it to evil political ends.

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