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Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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What are the legal implications for Amazon from these revelations? I already know it's illegal to discourage union activity, but I'm curious about how this evidence affects the situation.

A civil suit from Smalls, maybe.

All of this evidence would have been found as part of discovery if there would have been real litigation, anyway, so I doubt it's going to be particularly painful for Amazon.

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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I know many good people work on tech at Amazon and that treating low-wage workers, organizing to defend their health and safety this way, is not something you all would embrace.

Now is your chance to organize and prove this is true. Google employees did it and so can you.

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A really disgusting but predictable thing to fall out of this whole fiasco is to watch Obama-era staffers aggressively side with management against labour: https://twitter.com/JayCarney/status/1245474780746330119

You mean a current SVP at Amazon?

Is it possible that his current role is defining his response more than one he held at least 3 years ago?

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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This Vice story is just part of the smear campaign.

Strategy: “We should spend the first part of our response strongly laying out the case for why the organizer’s conduct was immoral, unacceptable, and arguably illegal, in detail, and only then follow with our usual talking points about worker safety,” Zapolsky wrote. “Make him the most interesting part of the story, and if possible make him the face of the entire union/organizing movement.”

As applied: “I was frustrated and upset that an Amazon employee would endanger the health and safety of other Amazonians by repeatedly returning to the premises after having been warned to quarantine himself after exposure to virus Covid-19,” he said. “I let my emotions draft my words and get the better of me.”

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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A really disgusting but predictable thing to fall out of this whole fiasco is to watch Obama-era staffers aggressively side with management against labour: https://twitter.com/JayCarney/status/1245474780746330119

At the risk of making a generalization, it's interesting that political PR firms and/or workers from them tend to get companies in trouble. Recall that Facebook retained a republican PR firm that pushed anti-Soros conspiracies, for example.

Maybe the lesson here is that people who worked in politics/lobbying are not trustworthy and can be a liability to the integrity of your company if you hire them.

Re: Leaked Amazon memo details plan to smear fired warehouse organizer

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I know that that's the title of the article but I read the article and came away mostly thinking nothing was all that bad. Is it because the notes said the organizer isn't eloquent or smart that there is reason to be upset?

I took away that they picked an in-eloquent person to poster up as the leader and that the push to unionize has a broader base.
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