Mazda waves hi. Touchscreens auto- disable when driving but buttons/ knobs are still usable to control it. Last I heard they wanted to move to a HUD system.
Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
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There's always the possibility for hybrid UIs. Something with physical inputs with a dynamic display based on context, like a screen above a series of buttons and maybe a dial at the end ( think ATMs) or even buttons with OLED displays. It's the best or worst of both worlds depending on your perspective, but they do offer superior hands-free operation over a pure touch device, but at the sacrifice of interface flexib…
>Something with physical inputs with a dynamic display based on context, like a screen above a series of buttons and maybe a dial at the end BMW's iDrive is, I think, the canonical early example of this in the automotive world.
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#753“The new Audi A3’s electronics boss Melanie Limmer told Autocar recently its decision to remove some physical buttons was made as ‘more and more people are getting into touch functions with smartphones’ and added that the new system is as user-friendly as the previous one.” - her model is the thing that is responsible for countless distracted driving deaths... great
Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
#754Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's always the possibility for hybrid UIs. Something with physical inputs with a dynamic display based on context, like a screen above a series of buttons and maybe a dial at the end ( think ATMs) or even buttons with OLED displays. It's the best or worst of both worlds depending on your perspective, but they do offer superior hands-free operation over a pure touch device, but at the sacrifice of interface flexib…
Also known as an MFD, and used for many decades in the aviation industry. MFDs were pioneered in fighter jets, where the cockpit physical space is extremely limited while the amount of information the pilot has to deal with is far beyond any civilian pilot workload. MFDs combine the durability of physical controls with the configurability and flexibility of screens, and it's completely beyond me why they are not stan…
That's a funny coincidence. Two days ago, I was searching the Web for cars with MFDs after watching a review covering the Porsche Taycan's touchscreen interface, thinking how odd it was that I couldn't find any.
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Voice control sucks IMO, even though a lot of people now grow up with Alexa and similar and adapt to the technology. Why does it suck, just like some "smart" buttons? Because it's not obvious what it can do. You have to learn the vocabulary it understands and its other limitations (tone etc.). For example, I tried to get my Tesla to text one of my contacts recently and failed. I didn't know whether it just didn't und…
not obvious to you. I suspect younger generations won't have much of an issue with this, similar to how millenials learned how to utilize google search easily while it confounded their parents
I'm a technologically-inclined 25-year-old, and I've been using voice commands since 2010, but I still think the criticism fully applies.
Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
#756Look at the cockpit of any modern airliner and you will see screens, but they are never interactive. There are hardware buttons, dials and lights all over the place. A tactile interface is both more obvious, sturdy and more stable, and therefore safer. The problem that touch interfaces solve, ever since the advent of the first smart phone, is that the interface is now dynamic. You can change it without having to repl…
Not to mention, touchscreens really disadvantage the visually impaired.
True, but they are already a little disadvantaged when flying an airplane.
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#757I will never understand how this trend started in the first place. If you look at e.g. digital cameras, they all have touch screens these days, but they also still have buttons and dials everywhere. The one in front of me has eight physical buttons, seven dials and a power switch. The reason is obvious: when you're taking photos, you don't want to be looking down at a screen; you want to be focused on the task at han…
They make cars significantly cheaper to produce - both in terms of parts and construction time. Evey button you lose is a button you don't have source and install when building the car. There's less wiring, less replacement parts to stock. It's a win in all kinds of situations for the manufacturer. It's no coincidence that the company with most manufacturing issues - Tesla - also went with completely touchscreen base…
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#758God bless em.
RWD electric car, and tactile controls, and all the other cool stuff they're doing? Honda is becoming cool again.
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I fly recreationally and all the higher end gear has touch screens. Some of them are redundant with paths using hardware controls or not. But that's definitely the minority. There are a slew of critical operations that I simply cannot complete without interacting with a touch screen. Not saying it's right or wrong but your original post is 100% incorrect.
My iphone touch screen won't work if my fingers aren't clean and dry.
They are not capacitive
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Agree, now it is very difficult to find a phone that has physical keyboard, sdcard, phone jack and is current. I really hate those trends.
Instead you get a phone that can get wet, that the charging port doesn’t break after a year, and that has enough memory to not need to use an sdcard (I bought a good brand sdcard from a reliable retailer, and it fucked out in the phone: I would never make that mistake again). I love equipment I can hack and fix myself, but I love reliable equipment more.
> Instead you get a phone that can get wet,
For 10 years I had smart phones, this was never the reason for breaking. I know that there are people who constantly break theirs, but I don't take my phone to shower.
> that the charging port doesn’t break after a year
That has nothing to do with it, micro USB had this failure and looks that USB-C is much more durable, if they opted for mini USB (which is pretty much the same size as micro USB, we wouldn't this problem at all).
> and that has enough memory to not need to use an sdcard (I bought a good brand sdcard from a reliable retailer, and it fucked out in the phone: I would never make that mistake again).
Not sure what you did, but I never had that experience. Not even sure how an sdcard can fuck up a phone.