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Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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I will get banned for this in a matter of minutes but I will say the truth to whoever think HN is fair. For the past 3 months, every, again EVERY post that was linked to Tailscale (not just the company domain but also the blog posts of the founders' websites), has gotten to the frontpage within minutes, with a full 100% hit rate. This cannot happen for any company, any project or anything else to be honest since ther…

Having your friends upvote your posts on HN doesn't mean HN "favors" you.

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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post #12
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I will get banned for this in a matter of minutes but I will say the truth to whoever think HN is fair. For the past 3 months, every, again EVERY post that was linked to Tailscale (not just the company domain but also the blog posts of the founders' websites), has gotten to the frontpage within minutes, with a full 100% hit rate. This cannot happen for any company, any project or anything else to be honest since ther…

Having your friends upvote your posts on HN doesn't mean HN "favors" you.

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Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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I will get banned for this in a matter of minutes but I will say the truth to whoever think HN is fair. For the past 3 months, every, again EVERY post that was linked to Tailscale (not just the company domain but also the blog posts of the founders' websites), has gotten to the frontpage within minutes, with a full 100% hit rate. This cannot happen for any company, any project or anything else to be honest since ther…

This is definitely true and not just about Tailscale.

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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I will get banned for this in a matter of minutes but I will say the truth to whoever think HN is fair. For the past 3 months, every, again EVERY post that was linked to Tailscale (not just the company domain but also the blog posts of the founders' websites), has gotten to the frontpage within minutes, with a full 100% hit rate. This cannot happen for any company, any project or anything else to be honest since ther…

Having your friends upvote your posts on HN doesn't mean HN "favors" you.

> Can I ask people to upvote my submission? [1]

> No. Users should vote for a story because they personally find it intellectually interesting, not because someone has content to promote. HN's software penalizes submissions, accounts, and sites that break this rule, so please don't.

"A "voting ring" is when people get friends to upvote their stuff. This is against the rules. We want stories to be on HN because they're good, not because they were promoted." [2]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7543910

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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Seems like it requires a Google or Microsoft account (or corporate SAML). No thanks!

(I'm a Tailscale co-founder) The idea is to avoid building yet another commercial service that holds onto your username and password. People have enough identities already. More details here: https://tailscale.com/blog/how-tailscale-works/ We know we keep getting feedback that people want a different way to authorize their accounts (especially for personal use), so we're looking at other options. We just really want…

Have you considered integrating with Keybase? I think the identity system of Keybase coupled with the secure mesh networking of Tailscale would be a really powerful combination.

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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post #12
post #10

I will get banned for this in a matter of minutes but I will say the truth to whoever think HN is fair. For the past 3 months, every, again EVERY post that was linked to Tailscale (not just the company domain but also the blog posts of the founders' websites), has gotten to the frontpage within minutes, with a full 100% hit rate. This cannot happen for any company, any project or anything else to be honest since ther…

Having your friends upvote your posts on HN doesn't mean HN "favors" you.

Even if it is only as innocent as having your friends mass upvoting every thread of yours, then this is an outright exploitation of HN rules. Again never happened that a company, especially a company that was started a few months ago and hardly known by anybody, gets to the frontpage with a 100% hit rate for more than 10 times in less than 3 months.

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I'm a Tailscale co-founder) The idea is to avoid building yet another commercial service that holds onto your username and password. People have enough identities already. More details here: https://tailscale.com/blog/how-tailscale-works/ We know we keep getting feedback that people want a different way to authorize their accounts (especially for personal use), so we're looking at other options. We just really want…

I'd actually rather you have my username and password, since I use a password manager and every password is long and unique. I don't want to tie my Google/Apple/ account to my Tailscale account. This way I can also more easily keep track of which accounts I have since my password manager stores them all. So I will wait for email signup (which currently just subscribes me to a mailing list...)!

(also Tailscale)

FWIW, we'll probably also be supporting GitHub (and maybe Twitter?) auth, as well as perhaps letting you run your own auth server if you set up the right DNS records. Lot of things yet to do.

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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Seems like it requires a Google or Microsoft account (or corporate SAML). No thanks!

We (ZeroTier) dragged our feet on this stuff for a long time because we are personally of your mindset, but we get asked for it a lot so more of it will be coming. The ability to use your own auth and your own other things will never go away though, and with ZT you can run a fully independent network controller if you want.

Personally I want ZT to integrate support for integrated (e.g. Apple security chip) and discrete (YubiKey etc.) secure tokens and enclaves. That is where the real security is at.

Re: Tailscale has reached general availability

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I will get banned for this in a matter of minutes but I will say the truth to whoever think HN is fair. For the past 3 months, every, again EVERY post that was linked to Tailscale (not just the company domain but also the blog posts of the founders' websites), has gotten to the frontpage within minutes, with a full 100% hit rate. This cannot happen for any company, any project or anything else to be honest since ther…

If I google for "buy hacker news upvotes" I see someone selling them for $2. You don't need a network for it. If you spend time on your content marketing and you buy upvotes you'll get bumped to the front page and stay there. Tinfoil hat not necessary.

When the HN plays favoritism in the vein of shilling for Y Combinator portfolio companies they make it fairly obvious to anybody paying attention. The portfolio company hiring posts are an example. Post to job descriptions and commenting disabled.

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