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Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#11
Not to sound cheap, but the first thing I note is the pricing. It's a little confusing. Does 33 cents per day mean that I'm only charged on days that I use it? So, if I use it Monday - Friday, I'll typically pay 7 Euros per month rather than 10 Euros? Or is it merely saying that it's only 33 cents per day? I'm also unsure what you mean by a workspace. In the UI photos, there's the concept of a "project", but I'm unsure if I would need multiple workspaces.

Then there's the cost itself. If 33 cents per day translates into $166.73 per year (after the conversion to USD), that seems a little expensive. The reason I say that isn't to say that software must be gratis, but that RubyMine's commercial license is only $149 and includes all upgrades for a year and you can upgrade your subscription after that point for just $99 per year. Personal licenses cost even less.

I'm not saying you don't have a great product - it looks absolutely gorgeous. I'm merely asking what the value is here. Is it that I don't have to install my IDE on multiple computers I might use? Is it that it will support multiple languages at the one low price (while JetBrains has different products for different languages)? Is it planned that it will support, say, running and debugging my Rails project without me having to configure environments on different machines?

I'm seriously asking because I do work on multiple machines (of different OSs), but I need to be able to run and debug (in my case Rails) projects and things like Eclipse, TextMate and a terminal, or even gedit with its terminal plugin will allow me to browse my file hierarchy, get an edit space with syntax highlighting, and run my application. Plus, while it can be annoying to set up another box, that doesn't happen very often and it means that things like relying on gems works.

It looks wonderful and I hope you keep improving it!

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#12
post #5

Very nice idea! It seems to me, editing and launching code without having to install anything locally can be very handy in some cases. One question about security: Does it support HTTPS?

It doesn't yet, but it will be supported very soon, we are working on it!

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

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post #8
post #4

Does it support textmate/sublime style syntax highlighting? How do I actually get it to do anything? Clicking on a github project in the list does nothing. Ok, I clicked fork (I don't think this is intuitive at all, why would you want to fork your own projects?), and I'm editing code. Things that would prohibit me from using it: * Can't upload my own tmTheme files. * Cant't seem to change font, ignores my browser's "…

When you are on your own computer, you clone from github to edit your project. See cloud9 as your own computer, but then in the cloud, accessible from anywhere. It should say 'clone' instead of 'fork' though. We'll change that. - Themes: There is a converter script already in the open source project of Cloud9 on github. We'll add a way to upload your own themes soon. - Font: Good suggestion. I'll add this to the feat…

Thanks for the reply. I do like the idea and it is interesting. I'll look into Cloud9's OSS project as it would be really useful to have, for instance, Cloud9 installed on a development server, then be able to login from anywhere and edit the code (though security wise it could be hazardous).

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#17
post #6

39 Euro/month?! As an individual developer I get Rubymine for $69 and can use it as much as I want. What's up with the per day pricing? Who wants to pay his IDE + workspace on a n per day basis? This is about the strangest pricing I've ever seen.

Well, the idea is this: Normally you have all your stuff on your own computer. You'll install all the software you need, like your database and runtimes and any SDK. With Cloud9 all that stuff lives in the Cloud. It's hosted and it's accessible for you from anywhere.

So, like any cloud service, the hosting costs money. We are offering this for free when you work on open source projects. But when you are doing a commercial project for a customer and you like the benefits of being in the cloud with not only your editor, but your entire test environment, then you pay something for it. One of the advantages of cloud services is that you have flexibility, so with the pay per day we offer the flexibility to only pay for the use of the platform when you need it. Our thought is that if you're doing a project that makes you a couple of hundred dollars a day, 50 cents for the editor is not much if it saves you a lot of time.

With that said, we still have some way to go before all the time savers we have planned are in Cloud9. We're working on a very cool Git UI, great deployment integration and many many other features. More important for you is the Ruby support that is upcoming, including step through debugging. In the mean time use cloud9 for your open source projects and see how it feels for you.

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#18
post #14

The site (awesomely) says that most of the code powering it is openly available on Github ( https://github.com/ajaxorg/cloud9 ) - out of interest, which parts have you developed separately for your service?

The platform code is private, but you can always run the IDE locally, or on your own open-source webserver.

Re: Cloud9 IDE - Your code anytime, anywhere

#20
I like these kind of projects/efforts and it looks great, but this thing is quite buggy. And some parts, like the sign up process might not even be buggy but just bad workflow.

And it's too expensive IMHO. You need to make money, but for what it offers now, at least to me, it's not worth it.

Other than that, hopefully you'll improve it and make it a real online IDE.

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