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Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by tleb_ »

dependenttypes wrote: post #32
CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #28

> end-to-end encrypted O RLY? https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/ring-client-android/is... https://security.stackexchange.com/a/171461/43688 I looked through their code to see where data is being encrypted/decrypted, and was unable to locate it. Since their issue indicated they use 4096-bit RSA, I really wanted to see if they were vulnerable to Bleichenbacher's 1998 padding oracle attack. https://git.jami.net/savo…

> > The SHA-1 fingerprint (160-bits) of this public certificate is the JamiId. I do not see any issue with this.

Probably related to this https://shattered.io/

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by smcleod »

Freak_NL wrote: post #35
surround wrote: post #6

In comparison to Zoom and Jitsi: Jami’s major advantages are that it’s end-to-end encrypted and completely peer-to-peer, requiring no server in-between. The major disadvantage is that it doesn’t support calls from the browser. See also: https://jami.net

Not running in the browser is a major downside. I've used Jitsi this past week with technologically illiterate family members, and being able to just have them enter a URL while talking on the phone is really great. Also, being able to just use any OS with a modern browser you please.

Personally I don’t want to have my web browser run applications, I’d rather have native MacOS or Linux apps, but I do see how having at least a version of it available in a browse is handy for potability.

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by Freak_NL »

smcleod wrote: post #54
Freak_NL wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not running in the browser is a major downside. I've used Jitsi this past week with technologically illiterate family members, and being able to just have them enter a URL while talking on the phone is really great. Also, being able to just use any OS with a modern browser you please.

Personally I don’t want to have my web browser run applications, I’d rather have native MacOS or Linux apps, but I do see how having at least a version of it available in a browse is handy for potability.

Don't get me wrong: I want both to be possible, but being able to just get up and go is really helpful.

For a tool like this though I'm not sure what a native app would add. Most of what it does builds on the functionality of a modern web browser.

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by skocznymroczny »

systemvoltage wrote: post #19
egypturnash wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Jami is inspired by a Swahili word that means “community”. The name was chosen as it reflects the vision: to be a service open to all, to be community supported, and to respect the privacy of users.” - https://jami.net/help/

Why does a product name have to have a "meaning" behind it? Kodachrome was abstract.

Because nowadays you are selling a lifestyle and experience rather than a product, and being "woke" gives you bonus points for no additional costs.

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by app4soft »

surround wrote: post #6

In comparison to Zoom and Jitsi: Jami’s major advantages are that it’s end-to-end encrypted and completely peer-to-peer, requiring no server in-between. The major disadvantage is that it doesn’t support calls from the browser. See also: https://jami.net

> doesn’t support calls from the browser

This is a feature, not a bug.

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by Brian_K_White »

lilSebastian wrote: post #31
squarefoot wrote: post #26

I just installed on a Debian 10 machine, then on my old Android 6.0.1 junk tablet. No problems on the PC, while the Android one always crashes when attempting to pair with the PC by pointing the camera at the QR code, and adding manually the exported account on the network hangs indefinitely on the "adding account" window. Not a big issue since I don't carry the tablet around, just to let the developers know if they…

> just to let the developers know if they read here. Or, raise the issue with them for investigation, since a comment on an unrelated site isn't a reasonable way to provide feedback

But it was most convenient for the user. Maybe it's equally fair to lecture developers on reasonable ways to collect feedback.

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by lambertsimnel »

hkt wrote: post #49

I've used this while trying to find open source video conferencing solutions and chat applications in the past. It spends significant amounts of time not finding my friends before timing out. As an aside, I don't believe in the virtues of P2P anymore. It's clear to me that centralised systems scale further and faster, and what we need are benign organisations to run them. Legal forms like cooperatives and community b…

I share your interest in cooperatives, but not all cooperatives are equal. If we expect cooperatives to provide public interest services that might otherwise be P2P or nonprofit, I think we need a special kind of cooperative.

I belong to cooperatives that are politically partisan, that engage in sharp practice, and that aren't as democratic as I'd like. I'd prefer cooperatives to concentrate on treating stakeholders fairly, representing members equally and effectively, and prudent stewardship of their assets.

Cooperatives might lose their focus on their main purposes and discourage some non-progressives from becoming members/customers by pursuing too wide a range of progressive causes.

Re: Jami: GNU end-to-end encrypted alternative to Zoom and Jitsi

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Post by wink »

app4soft wrote: post #57
surround wrote: post #6

In comparison to Zoom and Jitsi: Jami’s major advantages are that it’s end-to-end encrypted and completely peer-to-peer, requiring no server in-between. The major disadvantage is that it doesn’t support calls from the browser. See also: https://jami.net

> doesn’t support calls from the browser This is a feature, not a bug.

Still not an "alternative" for some people when browser-based might be the main feature. It's complicated.
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