I've seen about 10 different articles against Zoom during the past 3 days. I really don't enjoy using Zoom, but the volume and frequency of criticism is odd. Has anyone figured out where it's coming from?
The press always goes after the top dog. The articles about factory worker conditions are always about Apple, not Acer, even though Acer's are almost surely worse (due to no press scrutiny). Zoom is the top dog in videoconferencing right now, and videoconferencing has grown by a factor of ~1 million in importance over the last three weeks.
Why should the press waste their time kicking underdogs when the top dog deserves to get kicked?
The problem with phone calls isn't the lack of video, but the lack of a "click here to join the meeting" interface. Group meetings are much less hassle through Skype, or Teams, or Zoom, or whatever computer-based option you choose, than waiting for everyone to drag out their phones, dial the right number, type in the right meeting code.
> The problem with phone calls isn't the lack of video, but the lack of a "click here to join the meeting" interface. If "dial this number to join the conference call" is too hard for modern professionals, what the hell is happening to our society? (I do not believe it's actually too hard for them. I think it's incredibly patronizing to suppose that dialing a phone number might be too hard for otherwise capable membe…
I didn't say it was too hard, but frictionless wins out more often than not.
Why wouldn't frictionless + more features win over tedious and incapable of screen sharing?
> On-boarding is a enormous part of why Slack is trouncing other instant messaging efforts Slack's separate sign-ins for each space is strange to me. On a new install, I can't log into my account and automatically be connected to every space I'm registered to.
That's no longer true and hasn't been for years. Coincidentally I was invited to Slack for user testing a couple years ago. They asked me to sign into slack and as I was going through that said, "you know what's really annoying? When I do this now I have to sign into each workspace." When I signed in, a list of available workspaces appeared. Turns out I was a user tester for exactly that feature.
Like my sibling replier, this is not true to me. Every time I join a new workspace I have to sign in on every machine I have. I have to remember the workspace ID, which isn't obvious, and I have to go back into my email to when I was first invited to find what the workspace is. And if not I have to ask them to remember it for me, and they send me an email, and I click a link, and then I get this list of workspaces that I have, and then I can sign in. What's more, I feel like there have been instances where I've signed in on slack, and that auth went to a browser slack instance and not to the slack app.
There are so many clicks involved and it's frustrating and stupid. Why.
Zoom should be considered malware, as it was written with malicious intent, or with sufficiently advanced incompetence as to be indistinguishable from malice.
Advanced malice often pretends to be incompetence.
Zoom has about 130,000 subdomains. Cisco, established 20 years earlier and operating in the same space and many more, has 45,000. About 40-50k of Zoom's subdomains are customers. Company.Zoom.Us. About 5k of the subdomains reference MMR. Likely this means "Meet Me Rooms" which are seen in data centers. About 200 contain the word tracking, 300 the word face, and 400 the word elasticsearch. Something like 700 contain t…
This is some great sleuthing! Thanks for sharing it. If you don't mind me asking, how did you list out all the 130k subdomains?
That's a great question. I'm no DNS expert, but I know that anonymous zone transfers are not normally a thing.
I've seen about 10 different articles against Zoom during the past 3 days. I really don't enjoy using Zoom, but the volume and frequency of criticism is odd. Has anyone figured out where it's coming from?
Your other comment describing this as a hit piece is dead. So this is second attempt to discredit those making a solid argument with evidence. Again you take zero issue with all the points raised and just try to add noise and muddy things. So, why? Anything you'd like to disclose? dang ?
I'm a different person, no sure why you're attacking me here.
Your other comment describing this as a hit piece is dead. So this is second attempt to discredit those making a solid argument with evidence. Again you take zero issue with all the points raised and just try to add noise and muddy things. So, why? Anything you'd like to disclose? dang ?
I'm a different person, no sure why you're attacking me here.
Questioning. And apparently incorrectly. My apologies.
What worried me the most is the “zoom.us” in the name installer file. As if they went the extra length making sure you are comfortable it’s a US company. In fact it is, so why even making a point of that?
Zoom works so well, given a lot of us can't work or learn face to face at the moment, I think we just have to work with Zoom constructively. There are equivalent or better solutions in niches but no general solution that really stacks up. Report security issues. Keep them honest. And don't use it for discussions that are potentially highly sensitive - buyer beware. I would much rather use an open technology with FOSS…
Am I the lone wolf who has no qualms with join me or Uber conference?