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The rumor that I've heard is that the "security and privacy concerns" are that Boeing has somehow gotten access to their Zoom. I don't know what that means, exactly, but it's at least somewhat more rational than being concerned that facebook is siphoning up the data.
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iCloud isn't some separate entity from iMessage. It's all Apple. And you have no option to use a different cloud backup provider. You can decide not to give your keys to Apple, but you can't decide for all your friends to not give their keys to Apple, and the result is the same: Apple can read your messages. And the marketing is so misleading that hardly anyone knows that Apple can read most iMessages.
Got any sources for that? Sounds a lot like FUD.
> > iCloud isn't some separate entity from iMessage. It's all Apple.
> Got any sources for that? Sounds a lot like FUD.
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This is completely ridiculous. iMessage is encrypted by my device and remains encrypted until it gets to the recipient device. That is what end-to-end encryption means. That I may have given Apple my private key through a different message in no way affects that end-to-end encryption, because it is trivial to decide not to give Apple that key.
iCloud isn't some separate entity from iMessage. It's all Apple. And you have no option to use a different cloud backup provider. You can decide not to give your keys to Apple, but you can't decide for all your friends to not give their keys to Apple, and the result is the same: Apple can read your messages. And the marketing is so misleading that hardly anyone knows that Apple can read most iMessages.
The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.
The Zoom CEO and founder is chinese. He was refused a Visa to the US (8 times!). It's not inspiring, it's scary. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-18/u-s-refus...
The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.
Agreed. It's unlikely they stumbled onto an industry standard phrase like that alone, then innocently used it without knowing the generally accepted meaning. This is deceptive advertising.
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They are using the same language as Apple talking about iMessage and FaceTime. Apple talks about end to end encryption, but one end is iCloud which is why you can get your messages simultaneously on all devices.
There is a big difference there though. In transit, iMessage and FaceTime backups are end-to-end encrypted, it's just the iMessage backups on iCloud that also store the key. FaceTime chats, though, truly are end-to-end encrypted and the calls aren't backed up like iMessages are.
The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.
E2E changed meaning since, for example, HIPAA.
The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.
The Zoom CEO and founder is chinese. He was refused a Visa to the US (8 times!). It's not inspiring, it's scary. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-18/u-s-refus...
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Got any sources for that? Sounds a lot like FUD.
Sarcasm critique: I think a quote would make it clearer: > > iCloud isn't some separate entity from iMessage. It's all Apple. > Got any sources for that? Sounds a lot like FUD.
The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.